Which breed?

Tonifrax

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Hey everyone, hope youre all well.

Looking for some advice. Im hoping to get a larger bird sometime in the future and theres a few that im already interested in but would like to hear of peoples experience with different breeds. Im looking at eclectus parrots but also interested in major mitchells cockatoo, african greys and hahns macaws.
Im looking for a bird that i can bond with, not overly fussed about speaking ability. Would be nice but just a companion that i can teach a few things and spend time with.
 

DizzyBlue

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Hmmm interesting diverse mix of birds you're considering....
Each bird is an individual just like humans and just because you want to bond doesn't guarantee they wish to.... They are as selective about the friends they choose just like us.
Eclectus specialist diet mainly fruit and veggies, Grey's females are usually gentler than the males but I do find they are more flighty not as good as other species, cockatoos tend to be "high maintenance" when they do bond known to many in the parrot keeping world as Velcro birds very loud, prone to being easily upset and plucking when left alone, hahns macaw have no personal experience of so can't personally say.
Perhaps Amelia can enlighten further. @CaptainHowdy
 

Tonifrax

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Hmmm interesting diverse mix of birds you're considering....
Each bird is an individual just like humans and just because you want to bond doesn't guarantee they wish to.... They are as selective about the friends they choose just like us.
Eclectus specialist diet mainly fruit and veggies, Grey's females are usually gentler than the males but I do find they are more flighty not as good as other species, cockatoos tend to be "high maintenance" when they do bond known to many in the parrot keeping world as Velcro birds very loud, prone to being easily upset and plucking when left alone, hahns macaw have no personal experience of so can't personally say.
Perhaps Amelia can enlighten further. @CaptainHowdy
Too be honest i was leaning towards an eclectus but ive wanted a cockatoo since i was a little kid. Heard major mitchells are a bit quieter but know thats never given
 

CaptainHowdy

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I do have a hahns and it's a bit of a tricky one as he hadn't had the best start to life so he's come with some behavioural issues.

My hahns macaw is an absolute sweetie, with me. And only me. He will happily threaten and go for anyone else who approaches his cage or approaches me when I have him out.
He likes to chill sat on my head trying to preen my face and getting told off for it 😂😂 or he will sit on my arm and play peek a boo with me by me covering his head with my other arm.
He is however over bonded to me and happily screams the place down when he knows my other half is in the room with me and he's not. It's quite a piercing shout so not suitable for flats or neighbours who don't like noise!
He likes to play ball with me where we roll a ball at each other or I pass it him and he throws it around or drops it back in my hand to pass back to him. He does have foragers but is a bit lazy about using them at times. He loves nothing more than snuggling up in a towel when he's had a shower and got soaked through.

He is very intelligent like most parrots but admittedly he's a bit of a mommy's boy and prefers to spend him time just chilling with me rather than destroying the room like some of my others. However this is probably because he sticks to me like glue when he's out and doesn't want to explore he just wants his mommy!

He is no good around children! He will happily threaten any child that approaches him and I never allow children up to his cage or have him out with children there. In fact I don't get him out with visitors full stop unless it's my family who he knows, but hates anyway!

He's not as dusty as some of my other guys but he does give off a fair amount of dust still.

I'm not sure I'm recommend them as a family companion as in my experience they really aren't. Mines defo a one person bird.
 

JackAndRob

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The only one I have personal experience with is an Eclectus. Ours is called Frankie and he came to us from someone that neglected him. They were quite cagey about his history and we were told that he was 10 months old, when clearly he was older. We think 2-5 years. He had a few issues - overgrown beak and nails, feather plucking (not too bad and he's never done it with us), poor diet. Our avian vet sorted his nails and beak out. His nails need trimming occasionally despite having correct perches (we do it little and often) but his beak growth is now under control, as he has plenty of things to chew on.

His diet is mainly veg with plenty of greens as ekkies need a high fibre diet. A little bit of fruit - the more exotic the better, but he also likes apple, pear, orange, blueberries, grapes, raspberries, strawberries, etc. We also provide a good quality dry parrot mix and some pellet, which he also eats.

He doesn't really like me (but I am slowly growing on him) but he gets on really well with my wife. He'll follow me around the house if I am the only person at home, but he'll keep his distance. He just likes to know what I am up to.

He can be loud, and when he wants a good scream it can go on for some time. His range of vocalisations is quite impressive and he is mimicking. He'll copy the sounds of our other birds, plus a few household noises and some words that he has picked up from us. We haven't made any special effort to teach him, he just picks up things that we commonly say.

If you want to see/hear Major Mitchells in action, try The Adventures of Roku on YouTube and look for Pabu.
 

Tonifrax

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The only one I have personal experience with is an Eclectus. Ours is called Frankie and he came to us from someone that neglected him. They were quite cagey about his history and we were told that he was 10 months old, when clearly he was older. We think 2-5 years. He had a few issues - overgrown beak and nails, feather plucking (not too bad and he's never done it with us), poor diet. Our avian vet sorted his nails and beak out. His nails need trimming occasionally despite having correct perches (we do it little and often) but his beak growth is now under control, as he has plenty of things to chew on.

His diet is mainly veg with plenty of greens as ekkies need a high fibre diet. A little bit of fruit - the more exotic the better, but he also likes apple, pear, orange, blueberries, grapes, raspberries, strawberries, etc. We also provide a good quality dry parrot mix and some pellet, which he also eats.

He doesn't really like me (but I am slowly growing on him) but he gets on really well with my wife. He'll follow me around the house if I am the only person at home, but he'll keep his distance. He just likes to know what I am up to.

He can be loud, and when he wants a good scream it can go on for some time. His range of vocalisations is quite impressive and he is mimicking. He'll copy the sounds of our other birds, plus a few household noises and some words that he has picked up from us. We haven't made any special effort to teach him, he just picks up things that we commonly say.

If you want to see/hear Major Mitchells in action, try The Adventures of Roku on YouTube and look for Pabu.
Yeah ive been watching the adventures of roku videos and a lot of eclectus videos. Im thinking visiting a rescue when thats possible might be a good idea
 

Tonifrax

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I would keep clear of Major Mitchell (Leadbeater)Cockatoo's as having hand reared many I have never had one suitable as a pet.
Yeah i was thinking it probably wouldn't be a good match. Think im leaning towards a eclectus or hahns macaw. Its so hard to decide. Feel like theres no guarantees regardless of breed. I am thinking maybe i might rescue another bird as the parrotlets i have right now came from a bad home and i know birds often end up in rescues. Do you have hyacinths?
 

Michael Reynolds

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Parrot797 is a specialist breeder but not based in England, he breeds Hyacinths and other specialist birds, having had both electus and hahns there is not a lot t choose from as they are both just as lovely in there own way
 

Tonifrax

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Parrot797 is a specialist breeder but not based in England, he breeds Hyacinths and other specialist birds, having had both electus and hahns there is not a lot t choose from as they are both just as lovely in there own way
I will just have to get both then i guess haha just kidding 😂 ive never met either of them in person. I am considering just adopting a bird. I just think i might have issues due to living in a flat 🤔
 

JackAndRob

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If noise is an issue, Jardines are relatively quiet parrots - vocal but not loud.

Edit: they are often recommended for people living in flats, due to the lack of volume :)
 
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Tonifrax

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Parrot797 is a specialist breeder but not based in England, he breeds Hyacinths and other specialist birds, having had both electus and hahns there is not a lot t choose from as they are both just as lovely in there own way
@Michael Reynolds ive read eclectus parrots dont like being touched and that they don't bond well. Whats your experience with them been like in that regard?
 

JackAndRob

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Our Eclectus Frankie loves a cuddle, a scratch and a beak rub from my wife and I'd say he is very well bonded with her.

Jardine Jessie prefers me, but she will attempt to get human contact from anyone that's willing to give it, however, she plays on her own better than Frankie , will settle in her cage quicker than him and takes to new toys faster than him too.
 

Tonifrax

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well I have a female, she has even laid an egg in my hand, very close and bonding
Wow thats love 😂 my birds just go to the toilet on my hand sometimes 🤔😂

I'm researching into a lot of different breeds at the moment. Anyone have Galah cockatoos? I spoke to someone yesterday on facebook who said they absolutely loved them and would get another after having such a positive experience with their first.

I do really like eclectus parrots but i wanna make sure i do my research. I dont know an awful lot about jardines. I'd never really heard of them until recently. Will look into them some more.

My first bird was an Indian Ringneck. I travelled down to edinburgh for it and i thought it was handreared but they took it away and put it back in again and its mother wasnt too keen and left it pretty bald. Something to do with having leaks in their sheds or something. Anyway, i ended up taking baldy home and at first we got on okay but she started getting really bitey, hissing, lunging at me. Didnt like my hands even though she used to let me pet her head. I trained her to fly to me on command but she then just flew to me all the time and i had a hard time getting her off. She then took to biting the wood on the doors and it was my parents house so they werent happy. She wouldnt come off the doors. She had a massive box full of toys but nope. She even used to destroy my slippers. Id be walking around the house with a bird on my foot. Honestly couldnt tell if she likes me or hated me. Sometimes id sit at my piano and play and she would sit on my shoulder and mimick the sounds but she also hissed and lunged at my hands all the time and i was anxious having her on my shoulder and she would peck at my hair and my head and sometimes it was pretty painful. I dont know if it was just hormones because when i got her she was very sweet, calm and liked a scratch on the head
 

CaptainHowdy

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Wow thats love 😂 my birds just go to the toilet on my hand sometimes 🤔😂

I'm researching into a lot of different breeds at the moment. Anyone have Galah cockatoos? I spoke to someone yesterday on facebook who said they absolutely loved them and would get another after having such a positive experience with their first.

I do really like eclectus parrots but i wanna make sure i do my research. I dont know an awful lot about jardines. I'd never really heard of them until recently. Will look into them some more.

My first bird was an Indian Ringneck. I travelled down to edinburgh for it and i thought it was handreared but they took it away and put it back in again and its mother wasnt too keen and left it pretty bald. Something to do with having leaks in their sheds or something. Anyway, i ended up taking baldy home and at first we got on okay but she started getting really bitey, hissing, lunging at me. Didnt like my hands even though she used to let me pet her head. I trained her to fly to me on command but she then just flew to me all the time and i had a hard time getting her off. She then took to biting the wood on the doors and it was my parents house so they werent happy. She wouldnt come off the doors. She had a massive box full of toys but nope. She even used to destroy my slippers. Id be walking around the house with a bird on my foot. Honestly couldnt tell if she likes me or hated me. Sometimes id sit at my piano and play and she would sit on my shoulder and mimick the sounds but she also hissed and lunged at my hands all the time and i was anxious having her on my shoulder and she would peck at my hair and my head and sometimes it was pretty painful. I dont know if it was just hormones because when i got her she was very sweet, calm and liked a scratch on the head

Behavioural changes can happen with all species. When parrots hit maturity You may find their behaviour changes completely and so does who they like and who they want to attack! Then during breeding season when their hormones are kicking in they can change behaviour again.

There are no guarantees and handreared doesn't mean hand tame. I would prefer a parent reared bird who has been handled as a chick. My handreared birds are the ones with the most issues!
 

Oli Fry

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Behavioural changes can happen with all species. When parrots hit maturity You may find their behaviour changes completely and so does who they like and who they want to attack! Then during breeding season when their hormones are kicking in they can change behaviour again.

There are no guarantees and handreared doesn't mean hand tame. I would prefer a parent reared bird who has been handled as a chick. My handreared birds are the ones with the most issues!
I completely agree. Parent-reared is best for all concerned in almost all cases.
 

Parrot797

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I am based in England and in Cyprus Paphos near the zoo,I used to keep 10 pairs of Hyacinths,and the last pair are now at the zoo and breeding well.I had many pairs of parrots of all species.I work as the Curator of the zoo(when I am there!).
 
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