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Keiichi18

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yes i would think so, ill see if i can find a pic or video of ours

here you can kind of see what i mean, page 2.

Yeah I don't know if she will respond to that at all, I've had her since march, just before the lockdown in the UK started, thing is we are pretty sure the seller was lieing about her age (he DEFINITELY lied about the wings being unclipped) so you can see why I'm in a bit of a pickle with her, if you want a rough estimate we are pretty sure she has just had her first ever mault. Just feeling like I'm doing a lot of things wrong here, she eats just fine the dry parrot mix we get her and....well though I've not seen her drink the water in her cage she must be (she prefures to take baths in it to be honest).

As for routine we don't really have a set one...like I wake up and make myself a drink, and while I make a drink I open up her cage (as at this point she is making a hell of a noise and threatening to wake others in the house up), gives me a chance to change her water thats probally everywhere BUT in the bowl and sort out her food bowl with some fresh dry mix. I sorta leave the cage open after that.
 

Scott199

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Yeah I don't know if she will respond to that at all, I've had her since march, just before the lockdown in the UK started, thing is we are pretty sure the seller was lieing about her age (he DEFINITELY lied about the wings being unclipped) so you can see why I'm in a bit of a pickle with her, if you want a rough estimate we are pretty sure she has just had her first ever mault. Just feeling like I'm doing a lot of things wrong here, she eats just fine the dry parrot mix we get her and....well though I've not seen her drink the water in her cage she must be (she prefures to take baths in it to be honest).

As for routine we don't really have a set one...like I wake up and make myself a drink, and while I make a drink I open up her cage (as at this point she is making a hell of a noise and threatening to wake others in the house up), gives me a chance to change her water thats probally everywhere BUT in the bowl and sort out her food bowl with some fresh dry mix. I sorta leave the cage open after that.
You sound just like I did, we got Bert in January, we think he is 15 plus but no idea really, we are his 3rd maybe 4th home that we know of.

I was told not to be so hard on myself, it all happens at its own time.
I’m not saying the video stuff right now this is a few weeks/months after we got him but I found the flat perch great to drop a treat on and let him decide if he wanted it.

baby steps, just put a little step in place and work on that then move to another baby step and so on.
 

Keiichi18

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You sound just like I did, we got Bert in January, we think he is 15 plus but no idea really, we are his 3rd maybe 4th home that we know of.

I was told not to be so hard on myself, it all happens at its own time.
I’m not saying the video stuff right now this is a few weeks/months after we got him but I found the flat perch great to drop a treat on and let him decide if he wanted it.

baby steps, just put a little step in place and work on that then move to another baby step and so on.
Sorry about the size of the image, and yes I know her cage needs a clean haven't been able to recentally due to having to sort out my Grandma's donkeys but will that shelf in the bottom right be good for the job thinking of starting this tomorrow if I can find any apples that have been blown off the tree

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Rev

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Toys are one possible to keep her occupied. Can she look outside from her cage? Mine love this. If there is no stimulation then she will scream at you to provide it. Have a look at things from her perspective hun. Constant screeching is a sign that she isn't happy about something.

Also have you a routine where perhaps you have breakfast together, she gets some one on one from you for a little while before you need to start working? Have you got a playstand or can you make a safe activity area for her, add some safe things to amuse.
Hello, I just want to start this off by saying I don't know if this is allowed and I'm sorry for hijacking this old thread but I am not aware of how to private message on this website.

I am writing to you as you have mentioned Chine House Vets which is where I am currently registered. I am wondering if you could give me some information if possible.

I am worried about my cockatiels health and I am wanting to get some information on a blood test.

Does Craig use anesthesia when drawing blood?

Would you be able to tell me the cost of a blood test?

Thank you and again sorry if this is not allowed.
 

dianaT

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:welcome: If any members do go to Chine House vets I am sure they will be along with an answer but why not phone them and ask.
Maybe a blood test is not required so you could make an appointment and take it from there?
What do ypu think is wrong with your cockatiel, can we have a phoeo and name too as we love birdie photos:thumbsup:
 

Rev

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:welcome: If any members do go to Chine House vets I am sure they will be along with an answer but why not phone them and ask.
Maybe a blood test is not required so you could make an appointment and take it from there?
What do ypu think is wrong with your cockatiel, can we have a phoeo and name too as we love birdie photos:thumbsup:
Hello! It's a long story which I have a thread on another forum. Basically he is very small in weight typically 75 - 76g but he dipped down to 71.9g about 2 weeks ago. Hes now back up to around 73g first thing in a morning. I went to see Craig on this past thursday. He said all seems healthy but if I am still worried xray and bloods are thr next step. But I don't want an xray at this time as I'm pretty sure that would require anesthesia.

I did email Chine house but recieved an email today saying to ring them tomorrow as its bank holiday I assume. I am looking for info from those registered with Chine House in the mean time.

Here's Peeky in all his glory:

 

dianaT

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What a dear little chap. Maybe the small weight loss was due to hormones playing up, I believe it can affect our birds in many ways. I am pretty sure avian vets do give anaesthesia for bloods and definitely for xrays. Let's hope he continues to gain weight and it is not necessary.
 

Rev

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What a dear little chap. Maybe the small weight loss was due to hormones playing up, I believe it can affect our birds in many ways. I am pretty sure avian vets do give anaesthesia for bloods and definitely for xrays. Let's hope he continues to gain weight and it is not necessary.
I can understand the need for anesthesia in xrays. But regarding blood draw, is this something which you have had done personally and if so was anesthesia used?
 

dianaT

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My late Amazon was anaesthetised for an xray, they took bloods at the same time.
 

DizzyBlue

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Very sweet active little one you have there.
If that is a new video can't actually see anything that would peak interest into any sign of illness showing. 70gms to 120gms is average for a tiel activity levels and food eaten - fatty food like nuts can be burned off quickly so no fatty stuff for a few days means you burn off other weight you already have.
 

DizzyBlue

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If the weight had continued to fall I would worry but you say some has gone back on.
When the vets speak to you tomorrow they can tell you the cost of full blood work but I suspect it's not necessary, can't see a protruding breast bone. If you offer millet that will pile the weight back on.
 

Roz

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None of mine have ever been anaesthetised for a blood draw (budgie, pionus, amazon) with a proper avian or exotic vet. Definitely a whiff of gas for X-rays. Have Peeky's dropping changed in consistancy at all? How about his behaviour?

Bobbie (Amazon) lost weight a few months ago which worried me enough to take her to the vet. However, nothing wrong was found. Then she put back the weight she lost and just recently has put on even more (probably hormones). I think I have stopped worrying (so much) about her, but always keeping a close eye.
 

Rev

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None of mine have ever been anaesthetised for a blood draw (budgie, pionus, amazon) with a proper avian or exotic vet. Definitely a whiff of gas for X-rays. Have Peeky's dropping changed in consistancy at all? How about his behaviour?

Bobbie (Amazon) lost weight a few months ago which worried me enough to take her to the vet. However, nothing wrong was found. Then she put back the weight she lost and just recently has put on even more (probably hormones). I think I have stopped worrying (so much) about her, but always keeping a close eye.
No droppings are like normal. His behaviour is the same too.

I am just paranoid due to never owning a bird before and after reading that they hide their illness gets me worried. The fact that he is on the small side for a cockatiel and I didn't get his bloods done when I first got him last July so I would like to get them done now so that I have something to look back on if he gets ill in the future or is now.

Could you tell me how they drew blood from your budgie? I say budgie as that would be the closest in size to my cockatiel than your other birds. I am still waiting on a phone call from my vet to find out exactly what their procedure is when taking blood. I have read up on anesthesia on smaller birds and it has me worried. Then again I have also read that sometimes its the vets' insurance companies that make them use anesthesia when drawing blood regardless of the vets experience.

Any info would be helpful. Thanks
 

Michael Reynolds

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Budgies are a lot smaller than cockatiels and they are more prone to shock or sudden death (even when just being handled). putting a budgie to sleep can be a high risk and is only done as a last resort, many vets will only take blood from a smaller bird if they cannot diagnose the problem and then depending on where they take the blood from to gain the correct results and on the stability of your bird will the bird be put to sleep during the procedure for example if they need to take bloods from the neck the your bird will be put to sleep, if they can gain enough of a sample from the toe nail or leg and your bird is relaxed then they may decide to leave the bird awake, most illnesses can be sorted with out taking blood. I have had two cockatiels micro chipped with out being put to sleep. i hop[e this helps
 

Rev

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Budgies are a lot smaller than cockatiels and they are more prone to shock or sudden death (even when just being handled). putting a budgie to sleep can be a high risk and is only done as a last resort, many vets will only take blood from a smaller bird if they cannot diagnose the problem and then depending on where they take the blood from to gain the correct results and on the stability of your bird will the bird be put to sleep during the procedure for example if they need to take bloods from the neck the your bird will be put to sleep, if they can gain enough of a sample from the toe nail or leg and your bird is relaxed then they may decide to leave the bird awake, most illnesses can be sorted with out taking blood. I have had two cockatiels micro chipped with out being put to sleep. i hop[e this helps
I asked regarding the user's budgie as it was the closest in size to my cockatiel as opposed to their amazons. Although not the same I thought it'd be more similar than the latter birdss. I'm hoping they will be ok with taking it from a toe nail and without putting him to sleep.

Thanks for you reply
 

Roz

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My budgie (around 56 - 60gms) had gout, so he had to have regular blood tests to monitor the level of uric acid in his blood. The blood was taken from the jugular vein in the neck. The vet who did it was a proper avian vet. I would have thought that not enough blood could be taken from a toenail? They need a certain amount for tests.
 

Rev

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My budgie (around 56 - 60gms) had gout, so he had to have regular blood tests to monitor the level of uric acid in his blood. The blood was taken from the jugular vein in the neck. The vet who did it was a proper avian vet. I would have thought that not enough blood could be taken from a toenail? They need a certain amount for tests.
Thanks for the reply. Was anesthesia used for the blood test?

Edit: nevermind I forgot about your original reply
 

Roz

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That’s ok. Just to repeat, anaesthetic was never used to take my budgie’s blood. The same vet did use a whiff of gas to microchip my Pionus.
 
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