UK Compulsory & Voluntary Bird Registration

@HKS according to the person I spoke to today on the phone any access at all to open fresh air for any amount of time is classed as requiring registration.
I sit outside in the garden with each of my birds in turn in the nice warm weather so they can get sunshine and some fresh air so although they are house birds its classed as access to open air!
 
Only thing excluded is a visit to the vets by an otherwise always indoor bird.
Bet the idiots even think that some old dear sat in their front doorway with their pet budgie besides them in its cage comes under their outdoor access rules now
 
Well I shan't be registering :lol:

Also starmergedon? Been in power for 10 weeks.... Tories had 14 years to fix immigration but let's not get political, surely this forum isn't for that. :copas:
 
Skye & Gemini haven't gone outside yet (other than when they came home), but I have bought a smaller cage that mum suggested we could take them in the back garden in until I can get them to wear a harness. We were also thinking of letting them fly in the garage (when it's fully secure) but you either have to go out of the house & into the garage through a garden (front or back) or we'd have to pass them through the bathroom window (small opening section that no cage or carrier would fit through).
Would that count?

Does the fact that my girls cage is in a corner where one wall has a door to the outside (therefore they can experience a breeze of fresh air while safely locked in the cage - only on warm days when the door is open with fly screen, I was never bothered by a draft in the chair that was in that corner before their cage) count as a risk?
Does the fact they haven't gone out yet, but I might take them outside in the future mean I need to register now, or only when I'm ready to take them out (when they're harness / carrier trained or when my mobility is better to be able to carry them smoothly)?

And what if you do take an indoor bird out, but never when there's a disease notification even in the country (for the point of view of a potentially paranoid germaphob).
So say 2020 was clear and you took your bird out that summer, then didn't in the winter and in spring 2021 there was a few cases of something in the country but a county as far away as possible from you, and you didn't take your bird outside at all in 2021. Then in 2022 it became wide spread & there were poultry culls in your area. Now your bird hasn't been out at any time there's been a risk of infection, but your bird has been registered as being outside on occasion, what would happen then?

(P.s. shouldn't read / think about this sort of thing when I'm so tired. Even reading back the bit about germaphob sounds like my tired "waffling" even to myself.)
 
DizzyBlue said:
Apparently any free flyers, harness birds or going out in their back packs etc will need to be registered as well
Less than 49 birds this page on the internet

www.gov.uk

Register as a keeper of less than 50 poultry or other captive birds

Register if you keep up to 49 birds, including any kept as pets.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

This PDF document


50 or more then its this PDF

and this web page
www.gov.uk

Poultry and other captive birds: registration rules and forms

How and when you must register as a bird keeper (including for any birds you keep as pets).
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk


Now I just have to think of everybody I can who either takes their birds into an aviary to exercise, free fly, backpack or harness walk .....

@lockey @MJGB - MikeJenGaryBeckyBoo @Dusty @Yellowchickenparrot @Stinkie @Roz (Don't think it applies to you Roz but please spread the word) @Oli Fry @Jeanette
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No thanks. Nugget only goes out a handful of times a year, I'm not putting her at risk of being destroyed to protect some nearby chicken farm. I'd rather risk the 5k if I get caught (unlikely)
 
@A.A.A. Cage near door not a problem
I wouldn't have registered except for the fact I have an aviary and there's always some dingbat who would want to report they can hear cockatiels
I too wouldn't take my birds out and about where there are disease control zones the aviary is inaccessible to wild birds and their poop as the roof is solid but for some reason some idiot has decided the wording "fresh air" it's a contact disease not something floating around.
If they want fresh air perhaps they should clean it up first before listing it as that.
 
I feel really bad at causing all this trouble but I guess it’s not me …ITS THEM.

It’s annoying as I purposely chose a solid roof for my aviaries so wild bird poop didn’t get in, don’t know of any birds that poop sideways. (I know flying poop has a mind of its own). So even if I could put up some sort of barrier they are still classed as having access to fresh air
 
I for one am glad you did mention it. Defo its THEM the twonks who likely have nothing better to do and never owned a bird the ones who are horrified that a bird pooped on their car as it could cause the end of their world as they know it.

Then there's us walking around with poop on our clothes feathers in our hair and paranoid we get a visitor wearing some kind of toxic odour deodorant :noidea:

Saw what these in-charge people were all like during lockdown never following the rules they made for the rest of us but wishing to impose fines for being in the fresh air for over the allotted amount of time in a 24 hour period whilst lining their own pockets. Should sling their hooks and go and sort out more important stuff like knife crime ..... oh yeah forgot we're turfing people out of prison early as there aren't enough prison rooms to cope with customers..... between that and building daft railways that are costing £80 billion and then realising its not actually worth it.

Geeze I'm on a rant again! Flipping politics.... health and safety gone made ..... oopsy still ranting!
 
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Self restraint ...... think mine has left the building!
 
Just spotted this – reading through my guess is I won't need to register as I only have the one budgie who will only be taken outside to transport him to the vets...? But what is the actual purpose of this registration? Bit rubbish it doesn't tell you on the actual page!
 
The whole thing is ridiculous....good luck to them for finding out those who do not register!
 
MarthaElise said:
Just spotted this – reading through my guess is I won't need to register as I only have the one budgie who will only be taken outside to transport him to the vets...? But what is the actual purpose of this registration? Bit rubbish it doesn't tell you on the actual page!
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My argument is that no one is obliged to register as successive UK Governments have broken the "social contract" and their legitimacy vis-a-vis Magna Carta is destroyed.
However, this is a Parrot Forum, so ... *bites lip*

There's no need for you to register, MarthaElise, either morally or legally speaking, under the personal circumstances you have outlined.

The actual purpose of the registration? I could talk about the need to assess risks in the event of there being a major avian disease epidemic but I'd be lying. I can guarantee that isn't the real reason. But again, this is a Parrot Forum and I now need to run my head under the cold tap ...
 
Is it not aimed to be more at pigeon fanciers who keep lots of birds outside?

It reminds me of the law where you can't feed your garden chickens scraps from your kitchen :rolleyes: course I had a chicken who lived in my house :risas3: also technically she couldn't be buried or cremated when she died and was supposed to be double bagged and binned!
Classed as livestock and not pets.
 
I feel sorry for the little old lady or man sat out in the sunshine with their budgie in a cage besides them their only form of company and some wally thinking they should have to fill in a form that's only on the internet that they can't get hold of because they don't have internet :noidea:

Would dearly like to have a pop at the want-to-be-big-brothers who think that stopping birds having access to fresh air and sunshine is acceptable behaviour instead of benefit... surely has to be a welfare law being broken as well as an invasion of privacy. Nobody's business but mine what birds I keep and for what reasons they are kept.

Only one gesture coming to mind for me .... flipping the bird to those law makers
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They expanded the grouping to all bird keepers saying its safe guarding chickens ......

Fine let us have access to the inoculation injection what only zoo's are allowed to use by the government I don't mind paying for it.
 
Their forms state the following (under 50 form)

*Species
Chickens
Ducks
Geese
Turkey
Pheasants
Partridges
Quails
Pigeons
Guinea
Fowls
Emus
Rheas
Cassowaries
Ostriches
Avian zoo collection
Psittacines (for example parrots, budgies, and cockatiels)
Aviary birds
Birds of prey (must also register captive schedule 4 birds) IRA82 (Rev. 09/24)

Production Details
Egg layers
Hobby/Pet
Showing
Reared for meat
Rearing for shooting
Breeding for shooting
Releasing for shooting
Breeding for meat
Growing pullets up to point of lay
Releasing for racing in GB Only
Releasing for racing outside of GB (EU & NI)
Breeding for egg laying
Hunting/Pest control
Breeding for racing
Poults
Display

Hmmmmm they don't list breeding for selling purposes..... unless that comes under Hobby but doesn't expand on the thought process....

All those with penguins looks like you get a free pass just let them loose in the garden don't pop them in an aviary
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