Trust Issues (Indian Ringneck)

Roz

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Fantastic!!! Always make sure it is easy for him to hop off your hand again so that he is in complete control. It will give him confidence to hop back on in the future. Sounds like you are making tremendous progress!! :applaudit:
 

mehul93

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Quick update, progress is still the same with just the one leg that he's happy to put on my finger and then stretch out for the treat. I've switch to using the target now to see if that's any better but still the same, one leg and then stretch. I guess over time he'll be more confident with two.

Im currently holding my finger perpendicular to the perch he is stood on, is there a better position to hold my finger that will make it easier for him to hop on?

Also should I incorporate the cue "step up" from now? Even though he isn't fully stepping up?
If so then do I say step up when he puts a foot on then touches the target or just when the foot is on?

I.e
Foot -> "Step up" -> touch target -> treat
Or
Foot -> touch target -> "Step up" -> treat
 

Roz

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Perpendicular sounds ok. You could try holding your finger in front or make it an extension of the perch - whatever gets best results and that would come through trial and error.

There are different thoughts about to when to add a verbal cue. I prefer to add the cue when the bird has learned the full behaviour, or else he will think/learn that "Step up" means just putting one foot on your finger. I would just cue touching the target for now.

It sounds like you are doing very well. It is progress that he is now happy to put one foot on your finger. It takes a lot of courage and trust to put two feet on the finger. When he does, immediately let him step off again so that he realises he is fully in control. This again will give him courage to do it again in the future.
 

mehul93

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Success, he'll now step up with both feet onto my finger! I switched to the perch method and used the perch that came with the cage. Used the target stick initially but now luring with a treat, just to make the process of him hoping on and comfortably stepping back off easier. I'm incorporating the word "step up" each time both his feet touch grab my finger. Hoping in time he'll step up with a lure.

Also I keep mentioning him as a he but I haven't actually had him DNA tested. The only thing I'm going off that hints he might be a male is a ever so slight ring forming. Also he should be around 10/11 months as of this month, I've attached a picture, could anyone potentially guess gender/age from it? I guess it could be very hard to so it's now a big issue.

I was actually at Hyde Park (London) today on a walk to see how the flock of ringnecks there were doing and it amazes me at how tame they are to come sit on your hand
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mehul93

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Thanks! @Michael Reynolds if you need more pictures let me know! I can create a new thread aswell if it helps? Would be easier for other users to scan through when they drop into the forum!
 

Michael Reynolds

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i just love going to Hyde park and yes Roz the ringnecks are very friendly their, i try to go twice a year to see them but had to miss out last year owing to covid restrictions. i will look back on the posts to see your ringneck @mehul93 can you tell me how old it is?
 

mehul93

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i just love going to Hyde park and yes Roz the ringnecks are very friendly their, i try to go twice a year to see them but had to miss out last year owing to covid restrictions. i will look back on the posts to see your ringneck @mehul93 can you tell me how old it is?
Yesterday was the second time I've been and it's certainly not the safest place to be in the current climate. Even though it's an outdoor area the ringnecks tend to always be in one place, and that area is swarming with people trying to feed them. I don't think I'll be going anytime soon again!

So when we got him last November we were told he was around 5/6 months old. So he should be around 10/11 months around now. Could you tell from the pictures? I'll try get some more pictures later on today
 

Michael Reynolds

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if you can try to take a photo from the side with your bird stretching its neck then this may give me more of a clue, the photos so far and your birds stance looks like a male but as its head is so close to the body in the photos i cannot tell for certain
 

bigfellasdad

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The only thing I can say is, any progress is positive, well done. I thing trust building is crucial and not to be rushed. If you offer a finger/treat for him to step up to you must ensure that you do not move your finger during these interactions until trust is consistantly in place, its hard to take a step forward and so easy to take a few steps back. Birds pick up on your mood/anxiety levels even before you realise yourself. If you are finding it a stressful experience during training or wanting to rush it, the bird will realise. Relax, smile, talk softly and let him know its ok, in fact a little excitement in your voice when positive things happen goes a long way. Ive never found clickers, or indeed treats work with Enzo but i think she isnt normal. Enzo prefers a 'good girl' or a beak rub when she does something positive. She understands 'its alright' too.

Of course, constantly read his body language, any sign of a warning or nervousness, back off. A shake is good, thats generally a de-stress action, feathers and wings tight isnt etc.
 
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