Strange Behaviour HELP!

chirpburp

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i live in Sydney city, my rosella named basion, likes to eat apples and millets those is what i use for his clicker training, berries i will definitely try i did not know he could eat that !
 

MellyM

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thankyou !! @MellyM i did not know Aussies are lucky till now ! haha XD. My father wanted to buy a rosella for a while as he use to own one when he was a kid. And he did so! He mentioned the owner did not provide much information but "the rosella gets picked on by other birds" in his backyard cage which is why he was selling him. And when I saw him very scared I really wanted to make his life better. as so this is my first time taming a wild/scared bird.
Oh yes ! Very lucky !

Ah I see, so he is a domesticated bird. Well now he is with you and not getting picked on I'm sure he will be happier.
 

Roz

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:welcome: chirpburp and Bastion! You've had some great advice already. I'll just add some more from my perspective:

The reason for clipping wings is to take advantage of a technique called flooding which then leads to learned helplessness, ie. the bird can't escape from you, so eventually it doesn't bother to try - it gives up. People mistakenly think they have tamed their bird. It's a horrible technique to use. Much better to have a bird come to you because they want to.... perhaps in the beginning because you have a lovely treat to give them.

Very pleased that you took him out of that training school. You sound like a responsible caregiver for Bastion. It's wonderful you have made such great progress already. To have have him taking food/treats from you is absolutely the way to go. There are very few reinforcers you can use with an untamed bird, and food is one of them. When you offer him his favourite treats you become paired with that wonderful experience and Bastion will begin to look forward to you being around.

It does sound like he wants to come out. How severe is the clip? Is it a light clip that will allow him to fly some distance? Or a severe clip which will have him drop like a stone? Hoping he might still be able to fly as his body weight is light. When you do let him out the first time, make sure to pad out the floor beneath the cage in case he falls when he takes off. If he hasn't tried flying since being clipped it is going to be a shock for him.

With a flighted bird, a good way to first let him out is to first let him settle into his new cage so that he calls it home, and get him used to the food routine ie. when the food bowls are slotted into place. Breakfast is the ideal time to try this as that is when he's hungriest if you are sure to remove food overnight (no parrot eats in the dark). Then an hour or so before breakfast open the cage door so that he can come out if he wants to. Theoretically he should take himself back when he sees you slot the food bowl in. This worked brilliantly with my then untame Amazon, Ollie. I never had to touch him - he flew in himself when I slotted in the food bowls - morning and evening. Not sure how this would work with a bird that cannot fly/get around himself.

When you get his new cage, you could use the top of his old cage as a playstand. Somewhere for him to go when he's out of his big cage. If you put toys on top it would make it more reinforcing to play there.
 

chirpburp

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hey roz thanks for replying with some amazing good advice, this really means alot to me. I really have learnt so much thanks to you and all for helping!

If those are your birds they are SO ADORABLE !! :see_hearts:

yes, he loves his millets! what i do atm is i open his cage and hold out his treat and say "hey bastion want some treats!" and usually he will step forward towards me to eat it and thats when i press my clicker and say "good boy!". However if he shows me body signs of not wanting which he usually steps away from me or even not look at me I put the treat down and come back after to try again. Is that a good trick? anything i should fix to that or change?

His wings are clipped quite much as he will last about 5seconds in the air and drop, which was a pain to watch. i might think ill add ladders to his new cage that way it be easier for him to go back. however, you suggest me leaving him in his new cage for a few days and get him use to his new home and breakfast technique before i let him out?
 

Roz

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Thank you - yes they are my birds. :feel_loved:
yes, he loves his millets! what i do atm is i open his cage and hold out his treat and say "hey bastion want some treats!" and usually he will step forward towards me to eat it and thats when i press my clicker and say "good boy!". However if he shows me body signs of not wanting which he usually steps away from me or even not look at me I put the treat down and come back after to try again. Is that a good trick? anything i should fix to that or change?
That's great - it sounds like you are "charging the clicker" or pairing the sound with treats. Love that you don't force him and just come back later if he is not interested.
however, you suggest me leaving him in his new cage for a few days and get him use to his new home and breakfast technique before i let him out?
Yes, absolutely because you want him to choose to go back in of his own accord. He'll choose to go back in if he feels safe in his new home and if he knows his food is there. Choose a day when you don't have to go out at all just in case it doesn't go quite to plan!
 

Lauraj

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Hello and welcome, late to the party but what a cute bird!😍

I have two birds myself, my grey who is 15 months old now was clipped by the breeder and finally his clipped wing is growing back in. I did not realise when he was bought the extent of the clip and i will never clip again unless for medical reasons if needed.
Just wanted to say i have set Bo’s cage up with loads of different perches at different heights and levels, i have natural wood perched, nail filing ones and the bendy type which help their feet. He also has rope etc but i have a little ladder at the bottom of his cage in case he needed to use it. The more his wings are growing back in the more daring the little monster is but having loads of perches at different places helped my bird travel around his cage safely 🙂
 

chirpburp

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Heyy Laura!! Bo looks such a joyful bird :feel_loved:

Thankyou for sharing with me how you handled Bo's clipped wings! Its a good idea to i should add many perches to help with bastions traveling, I also add ropes i did not think of that! :D
 
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