AmyTiff28

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Today my 18 week old baby Indian ring neck parrot had what I believe to be a seizure, she fell off her perch wings out and head tucked under her wing and was as you could say vibrating on the floor of her cage. I immediately got into her cage and grabbed her and she came back round and sat on my finger as normal, I was distraught having lost my 17 year old cockatiel in a similar way. I immediately phoned a vet who wasn’t an avian vet and they told me it sounds like she’s had a seizure, but advised to monitor rather then bring her to the vets. I then decided to phone a specialist avian vet who asked me about her diet etc and asked if I wanted to take her in for a check. I haven’t taken her yet as I’m scared the stress of the car and a transportation box will cause another seizure. I don’t know what to do has anyone else’s parrot done this? She’s fine now but I know birds mask problems and you can only tell when it’s normally to late that they are really poorly. I just don’t want to loose another baby!
 

Yellowchickenparrot

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Sounds like she needs a blood test to check her calcium and vitamin levels are all ok. I'm sure someone will be along to help soon with more advice
 

TomsMum

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Hi and :welcome: to the forum, so sorry to hear that your Ringneck is unwell and so stressful on top of the loss of your cockatiel.

Is your Ringneck used to being handled and would go in a travel cage, if so then it shouldn’t be too stressful in journeying to the vets. Isnthe avain Vet far away? I would recommend you try and get the bird checked out, if you make an appointment then don’t let the bird eat for about 2 hours prior in case they need to have an anaesthetic, as it is better for the bird to have an empty crop.
Other than this incident is your Ringneck usually active and eating well and have normal droppings?
 

sunnyring

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I agree with TomsMum avian vet is what you need to do.
a though...had anyone cooked using none stick cook ware within around an hour or two prior to fit? birds are v v sensetive to the toxic fumes released by none stick .
 

plumsmum

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Hey :welcome:, so sorry to hear about your Ringneck other than the good advice given already is there anything that could connect this seizure with that of your 'tiel? Are you using anything such as teflon pans, PTFE anything in the vicinity? Are you aware of what not to use with parrots in the home? No blame just trying to get to the bottom of this with you.
 

AmyTiff28

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She was fine prior to the seizure and was fine immediately after throwing her toys around on top of her cage etc, I can handle her she will come on my finger very easily and will go in a travel box fine, my nearest avian vet is 1 hour 30 minutes away! And any normal vets close by don’t want me to bring her in is it safe for them to go under anesthetic being so small and young, she eats very well loves fruit and veg and seeds money nuts and I had a mix food which is supposed to be all vitamins etc and she has it all in her cage until it needs changing she has vitamin drops in her seed food too I just can’t understand what it could have been other then she was to hot where her cage was being so young it couldn’t be metals and she’s no where near the kitchen near my food, I also don’t have her insured so my vet bills will be ££ obviously I will pay what ever I need to pay she is my baby but I just want her to be okay
 

Michael Reynolds

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Having had a Ringneck that had fits I can sympathise with your position but she is best off having an avian vet check her. there can be many reasons that can bring on a fit in a young bird and although she is eating well her body may not be digesting the or a nutrient correctly. In these cases Diet changes and additives may be able to correct the problem. bloods should be taken. My ringneck suffered skull and brain damage but time and care got him over the fits. yes he was on medication that improved his life. Pringle flew out my door last year but he is chipped so one day I hope to get him back he was a great talker and a great bird.
 

DizzyBlue

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Hi and welcome to the forum.
My avian vet is about the same distance away as you are to yours. I have in the past travelled further to get a bird to a specialist. I have travelled both aviary and hand tame birds. Some like to look at their surroundings as they travel and some do not so I always take a towel and place it so the bird can see me and only me whilst driving if necessary.
My african grey Denarii was under anaesthetic on Friday the gas they use for birds is isoflurane gas if your bird is to have a procedure than the bird needs to fast for 4 hours in a parrot and think its about 8 in a raptor it's so their crop is empty and they won't be sick as they come around.
All vets charge different rates and they should tell you what the charges are before the undertake any procedures. On Friday I paid just shy of £300 but this was for two x-rays, gas, 4 medications, blood sample and diagnostics, a nail dremmel (trimming of all of her claws) and removal of a broken feather shaft in the tail that the vet came across whilst he was doing all the other stuff. All in all very reasonable price I thought for all that was done, avian vet earned his money 100% ... especially as it was me as an owner poor chap had to deal with lol. None of my flock are insured, it works out cheaper for me with my lot not to be and to save the money in a parrot slush fund for them to use when they need it :)
Your stuck between a rock and a hard place I am afraid..... if you don't go this what-ever-it-is could go unaddressed and cause permanent damage affecting the birds life quality forever and you punishing yourself about it forever. If you do go then ok its a hit to the pocket but and a nervous time but with the possibility of high status of getting it sorted out now once and for all and ensuring your bird has the best quality of life ahead of him/her and you being totally aware of what is or is not to come. Ok that sounds scary BUT could be a cure and a never to be seen again thing with a vet visit and treatment. Weighing it up for me it would be a done deal .... avian vet every time. Loosing one bird that made a huge alteration to my life which was DizzyBlue just about finished me off had I been able to get to an avian vet in time I would have sold my soul to the devil to have had more years with that bird. Being fine before and after .... that is in your eyes no offence but we all know that birds hide their illness as in the wild they would be eaten for any weakness shown so could be an illusion the bird has spammed out to you so you think everything is totally normal.
A good examination, bloods taken to see if there is anything going on and then peace of mind you are doing everything for your beloved feathered friend .... can't really put a price on that :)
Whatever you decide to do make an informed decision one way or the other, asking the forum the question has given you years of experience in their replies in loving and living with our feathered ones from the above members who wouldn't ever be without their feathered family members I don't see any of us saying see how it goes and then decide. It's a lot to take in and hard when you think ooo but its risky ... its even harder if you do nothing. We make the decisions and our feathered sweeties are the ones that have to live with those.
I don't wish to sound negative or hard or any such thing I wouldn't judge another person for them doing things differently, but you asked the question and the above is the answer of what I would do. I hope you stay on forum and let us know how your little one gets on one way or the other. And if you want to know anything just ask away, that's why we hang around here to help each other through good and bad times and share our parroty fascination.
 

sunnyring

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regarding location of kitchen. I lost chicken chicks to none stick poisoning that were at other end of house. the fumes off this travel a long way.
all my none stick went in bin after I lost chicks. replaced with ceramic, stainless steel & enamel. same price & safe
 

plumsmum

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Hi some great advice from @DizzyBlue! Are you sure that there is not a nearer AV to you, I would not contemplate taking my bird to a non avian vet tbh. Choose a good AV and then please have some faith in them.
 

AmyTiff28

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I think I will book her in for a check, I think if it was a person who did this you wouldn’t hesitate to take them to the doctor, I guess I’m just scared Incase it is somthing sinister I’ve had a lot of death recently (not all birds) and I don’t think I could cope with another she seem absolutely fine now still eating, normal poo etc
 

Michael Reynolds

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First of all an avian vet will not put your bird to sleep unless he has no other choice many procedures can be done without the need of gas. Only things that in you avian vets opinion would be the best option to save excessive stress or pain or the need of the bird remaining completely still will they fill the need to put your bird in a temporary sleep. your bird may seem well at the moment but unfortunately they are also the best for hiding problems and I would hate you to find out if a problem exists too late to help. Please keep us updated. Let the vet know just how you are felling and what you are scared of they will understand they see many an owner whom would worry just as much
 
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