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Tonifrax

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well the way to a parrots heart is through its food, not always but it is a good start ha ha
I was surprised that he liked broccoli because he is quite fussy. Loves apple and and will do anything for a pistachio but hes a bit picky about his veg. Ive been sneaking it into his meals and I let him help with chop preparation today. He was my quality control/taste tester 🤣
 

Tonifrax

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Ollie was seen by a pet behaviourist at one point because he makes this very loud/high pitch ear piercing noise and used to do it constantly. They couldn't rectify it and apparently a past owner was getting him to stop by squirting him with water, more of a stream rather than gentle mist like he gets for a shower. He has started making what I am assuming is the noise they had an issue with. I really do not want to spray him with water. I dont agree with it. Being sprayed with water should not be a punishment because id like him to enjoy being misted every day and the spray bottle to be associated with something positive, not to be confused with getting into trouble. I havent done it and I really dont intend to. I've tried just ignoring him and only interacting and responding when he makes other noises or speaks. Im thinking then he will be more likely to use the phrases or noises that get him a reaction. Should I just keep that up? Or any other ideas would also be welcome 😊 I know parrots are noisy and that this is just part of the territory. Its not a major issue and doesnt really bother me but I would like to discourage it if possible. I'm doing the same with some of his phrases as he does swear occasionally so im trying to just ignore that and working on reinforcing the nicer words or phrases that he knows hoping to phase it out over time
 

JackAndRob

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Greys spend time in the wild foraging on the floor, so I am not surprised that Ollie was digging around on the floor.

Our lot like broccoli and fine beans. Dark greens are very good for the birds, for fibre, vits & mins. With fruit, it is often the case that the more exotic the better. Bananas used to be thought of as exotic and now we can get them everywhere, all year around.

Strawberries are a firm favourite with ours, so make the most of the British ones while you can. The ones from overseas are really not as good ;) Good quality raspberries, blueberries, pomegranate and figs too. Give you Ollie part of the whole pomegranate and he will enjoy ripping it up. All very messy though. Jardine Jessie also enjoys the part where I clean her beak and feet afterwards, by a running cold tap. I try to do it before she has a chance to get it all over the furniture :D
 

Tonifrax

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Greys spend time in the wild foraging on the floor, so I am not surprised that Ollie was digging around on the floor.

Our lot like broccoli and fine beans. Dark greens are very good for the birds, for fibre, vits & mins. With fruit, it is often the case that the more exotic the better. Bananas used to be thought of as exotic and now we can get them everywhere, all year around.

Strawberries are a firm favourite with ours, so make the most of the British ones while you can. The ones from overseas are really not as good ;) Good quality raspberries, blueberries, pomegranate and figs too. Give you Ollie part of the whole pomegranate and he will enjoy ripping it up. All very messy though. Jardine Jessie also enjoys the part where I clean her beak and feet afterwards, by a running cold tap. I try to do it before she has a chance to get it all over the furniture :D
Yeah his foster said the digging thing was how they forage in the wild so i set up heaps of stuff on the floor, mainly because I have carpet and although it is the old fashioned short stuff id rather for his sake that he didnt chew it so my living room was absolute carnage 🤣🤣🤣 we had some golden kiwi yesterday which went down really well. My mum has a polytunnel and greenhouse so I get organic veg from her which is good. Yes british strawberries are the way to go. My parents live on an country estate with a walled garden and they used to grow all sorts of berries. The strawberries were HUGEEEEE! I used to help when i was younger to pick them although I usually got caught out eating them. I had a system. One for me, one for the basket 🤣🤣🤣 I will try him with pomegranates and fig but in the kitchen so i can wipe down everywhere! I love figs so i hope he likes them too. Ollie wipes his beak on my arm or on the perch on his stand. He apparently likes to go in the shower but he wasnt having any of it when I tried so i just misted him with a bottle. Probably just because hes somewhere new!
 

JackAndRob

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An unfamiliar shower room perhaps, but he is doing so well that I am sure that it will not take long to introduce him to that.

Our Eclectus Frankie loves a spray shower. We use a Hozelock pump up spray as it delivers a fine mist and it is easy to direct. Frankie stays in his cage for this and turns every which way to make sure that he gets absolutely soaked.

The budgies have a spray shower too. We also put a large ceramic bowl of water down and they jump in and out of it while they are being sprayed.

Jardine Jessie prefers to shower under the kitchen tap, from the draining board. I have my hand under the water to monitor the temperature and run the water over her head and back.
 

Tonifrax

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An unfamiliar shower room perhaps, but he is doing so well that I am sure that it will not take long to introduce him to that.

Our Eclectus Frankie loves a spray shower. We use a Hozelock pump up spray as it delivers a fine mist and it is easy to direct. Frankie stays in his cage for this and turns every which way to make sure that he gets absolutely soaked.

The budgies have a spray shower too. We also put a large ceramic bowl of water down and they jump in and out of it while they are being sprayed.

Jardine Jessie prefers to shower under the kitchen tap, from the draining board. I have my hand under the water to monitor the temperature and run the water over her head and back.
Ollie gets sprayed with a fine mist but tends to face it face first. I hold it above him so it gets his back too. He doesnt seem to mind it. My parrotlets hate it but maybe if they see him doing it they will be more inclined to give it a go. Trying to figure out a routine where they all get out but kept seperate. I was letting Ollie out until dinner time and then swapping but my parrotlets wont go back in at night and i dont want to stress them out trying to catch them so im trying letting them out first and using their food to get them back in. They seem very interested in each other. Just having to keep them off his cage incase he bites them. Ollie likes to say hello to them and tell them he loves them 🤣 do you let your budgies out with your larger birds?
 

JackAndRob

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The budgies can come out with Eclectus Frankie, but not Jardine Jessie. I can take Jessie in a different room and she will stay with me. The budgies rarely come out of the living room.

Frankie tolerates them buzzing him as they fly around, but Jessie is more inclined to go after them, even though they are far too fast and agile to catch them. They know to stay out of the way. We have a plastic cover on the top of the budgie cage. Jessie's and Frankie's cages have a top tray.
 

Tonifrax

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So apparently Ollie's problem noise has been measure at 121 decibels and it led to him being given up in the past because neighbours complained. I dont think its a natural sound, more likely something hes picked up.
 

Tonifrax

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I also got told by his foster that ignoring it doesnt work. Any other ideas if i have no luck with that?
 

Tonifrax

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it took two years of ignoring Reggie's swearing before he stopped completely how long was your bird with its last carer?
He was in foster for 5 months. He got adopted but only lasted 2 weeks and he went back to foster for a few days before i took him. Think before that he was with someone in glasgow for 3 years
 

Michael Reynolds

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ok sounds like he has been moved around, when a bird has a call it becomes like a habit as he quite often had some type of reaction, So you should ask why is his call so loud, now I know it can be difficult to not react to the calls especially if they are of a higher pitch but this is exactly the only way your bird will realise that the call is not getting him what he wants. however you must react to a call that you do not mind and praise and give your time to your bird every time he calls more gently. breaking the habitual call can take a while and I will say even five months is not long enough.
 

Tonifrax

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ok sounds like he has been moved around, when a bird has a call it becomes like a habit as he quite often had some type of reaction, So you should ask why is his call so loud, now I know it can be difficult to not react to the calls especially if they are of a higher pitch but this is exactly the only way your bird will realise that the call is not getting him what he wants. however you must react to a call that you do not mind and praise and give your time to your bird every time he calls more gently. breaking the habitual call can take a while and I will say even five months is not long enough.
Thank you. I will stick to it and preserve. I have just been ignoring him. Sometimes he goes back to his normal talking/noises immediately after but I wait a little while and then join in so theres no confusion. There was apparently a lot of arguing in that household and sometimes I hear him imitating what sounds like people arguing but his version which is just the noise, not coherent words. He was feather plucking too and he has only 2 long red tail feathers and part of his chest is plucked. Ive noticed hes still pulling out the inner white down feather. Again I put this down to the stress. I think hes had 4 owners so its not surprising he has a few issues. Ive been keeping him busy as much as possible with training and plenty of toys to shred
 

Tonifrax

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ok sounds like he has been moved around, when a bird has a call it becomes like a habit as he quite often had some type of reaction, So you should ask why is his call so loud, now I know it can be difficult to not react to the calls especially if they are of a higher pitch but this is exactly the only way your bird will realise that the call is not getting him what he wants. however you must react to a call that you do not mind and praise and give your time to your bird every time he calls more gently. breaking the habitual call can take a while and I will say even five months is not long enough.
I definitely never tell him off because I know he will just do it even more because he gets a reaction so im just trying to positively reinforce good behaviours and ignore the bad
 

Roz

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Sounds like you are doing well @Tonifrax. Work out what is reinforcing the unwanted sound (attention?) and instead HIGHLY reinforce ANY acceptable sound with the same reinforcer (loads of attention?). As you have discovered punishment as in the previous people spraying him with a jet of water doesn't work in the long run. Only ignoring won't work either. You need to find and heavily reinforce an alternative sound/behaviour for him to do instead. He's been doing it for a long time, so it will take time to teach him to do something else.
 

Michael Reynolds

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greys lose down feather quite regally unless you see a bald patch or notice outer feathers chewed it will unlikely that your bird is just plucking out down feathers. the only punishment is just ignoring them for a short period
 
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