Discussion in 'Parrot Chatter' started by TomsMum, Oct 3, 2016.
Was it not straightforward then?
I really do not understand the fuss over 'pet' birds, they are pets and will never be going anywhere or breeding or showing, so why the hassle?
I just like to keep all paper work in order Kendra even right down to the vets , my way of thinking if anything happens to me it doesn't make life harder for who ever has Scooby .
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Well done Graham
That makes sense @Shirley, would not Tom keep him?
Yes Tom would keep him Kendra but better to have paper work inorder just in case better to be safe than sorry x
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Hi I've just joined this group an have a very young African grey , do I need to get my boy registered An also about insuring him , any advice on who to do this with ?
Your bird would need to be registered under the CITES regulations if you wished to breed from him/her, or if you wished to sell him/her in the future - and that means any monies changing hands...e.g you couldn't say the bird was free, but cage etc cost money, also if you partake with the bird in any commercial activities......display to paying guests, film photography work etc.
If you wished to gift your bird to someone in future you would need to complete gifting paperwork.
It is not necessary to register a companion bird that won't breed.
With regards to insurance ...this can give you cover for theft/loss, veterinary fees, and death depending on what cover you take out. There are two companies specialising in covering Avians
Exotic Direct - https://www.exoticdirect.co.uk/
And Equine and Livestock - https://www.eandl.co.uk/
Thank you for explaining this to me , he's just a let An not for breeding or showing , but will check insurers out , Thks again tomsMum
World Parrot Trust are asking for vigilance from enforcement agencies, airlines and pet owners to remain diligent to the ongoing threat of illegal trafficking.
As per this article from Cage and Aviary Birds
World Parrot Trust have also drawn attanetion to a report fromlast year - pre-dates the change from category II to I for the Greys........you can see why the change was needed, with so-called quotas often being exceeded.
Hello, just wondering if this is only for African Greys or any other types of parrots?
there are quite a few species that are currently classed as endangered to a point that they are given CITES I status the reason for the DEFRA rules is to attempt to stop wild birds getting caught and ending up in the pet trade. the reason why the grey has been posted is that they have only at the beginning of the year been upgraded to CITES I
is there a page that talks about the cities as i cant find it?
Hi and welcome to the forum The information you require is as follows:-
List of Cites Annex “A” psittacines
All of these birds need to have proper DEFRA paperwork
Species “Common” Name Scientific Name
Goffins Cockatoo Cacatua Goffini
Citron Crested Cockatoo Cacatua Sulphurea Citrinocristata
Palm Cockatoo Probosciger Aterrimus
Mullocan or Salmon Crested Cockatoo Cacatua Moluccensis
Philippine or Red Vented Cockatoo Cacatua Haematuropygia
Lesser Sulphur Crested / Yellow Crested Cockatoo Cacatua Sulphurea
Abbots Lesser Sulphur Crested Cockatoo Cacatua Sulphurea Abbotti
Timor Cockatoo Cacatua Sulphurea Parvula
Loriidae Lories, lorikeets
Red & Blue Lorikeet Eos Histrio
Blue / Ultra Marine Lorikeet Vini Ultramarina
Psittacidae Amazons, macaws, parakeets, parrots
Yellow Shouldered Amazon Amazona Barbadensis
Red Necked Amazon Amazona Arausiaca
Red Tailed Amazon Amazona Basiliensis
St Vincents Amazon Amazona Guildingii
Lilac Crowned Amazon Amazona Finschi
Imperial Amazon Amazona Imperialis
Cuban Amazon Amazona Leucocephala
Double Yellow Headed Amazon – sub species Amazona Ochrocephala
Double Yellow Headed Amazon – sub species Amazona Auropalliata
Double Yellow Headed Amazon – sub species Amazona Ochrocephala Tresmariae
Double Yellow Headed Amazon – sub species Amazona Ochrocephala Parvipes
Double Yellow Headed Amazon – sub species Amazona Ochrocephala Oratrix
Double Yellow Headed Amazon – sub species Amazona Ochrocephala Caribaea
Double Yellow Headed Amazon – sub species Amazona Ochrocephala Belizensis
Red Specticled Amazon Amazona Pretrei
Red Browed Amazon Amazona Rhodocorytha
Tucuman Parrot Amazona Tucumana
St Lucia Amazon Amazona Versicolor
Vinaceous Amazon Amazona Vinacea
Green Cheeked Amazon Amazona Viridigenalis
Puerto Rican Amazon Amazona Vittata
Hyacinth Macaw Anodorhynchus Hyacinthinus
Lears Macaw Anodorhynchus Leari
Glaucous Macaw Anodorhynchus Glaucus
Great green Macaw Ara Ambigua
Blue-Throated Macaw Ara Glaucogularis
Scarlet Macaw Ara Macao
Illegers Macaw Ara Maracana
Military Macaw Ara Militaris
Red Fronted Macaw Ara Rubrogenys
Spixs Macaw Cyanopsitta Spixii
Golden Conure Aratigea Guarouba
Chatham Island / Forbes Yellow Fronted Parakeet Cyanoramphus Forbesi
Norfolk Island Parakeet Cyanoramphus Novaezelandiae
Coxens Double Eyed Fig Parrot Cyclopsitta Diophthalma Coxeni
Horned Parakeet Eunymphicus Cornutus
Night Parrot Geopsittacus Occidentalis
Orange Bellied Parakeet Neophema Chrysogaster
Yellow Eared Conure Ognorhynchus Icterotis
Ground Parrot Pezoporus Wallicus
Pileated / Red Capped Parrot Pionopsitta Pileata
Blue Headed Macaw Propyrrhura Couloni
Blue Winged Macaw Propyrrhura Maracana
Golden Shouldered Parrot Psephotus Chrysopterygius
Hooded Parrot Psephotus Dissimilis
Paradise Parakeet Psephotus Pulcherrimus (possibly extinct)
Mauritius (Echo) Parakeet Psittacula Echo
Ring Necked Parakeet Psittacula Krameri (Ghana)
Blue Throated Parakeet Pyrrhura Cruentata
Kakapoo Strigops Habroptilus
Thick Billed Parrot Rhynchopsitta Pachyrhyncha
Maroon Fronted Parakeet Rhynchopsitta Terrisi
Blue Throated Parakeet Pyrrhura Cruentata
Please note that the African Grey (Psittacus erithacus) and Timnah Grey (Psittacus timneh) have now been added to this listing as of 2016 however the enforcement date 2017
Confirmed by DEFRA obviously came into force after a period of month .....
Any bird that is deemed to be a hybrid of any Annex A bird is also classed as being protected species and must have its official paperwork if it is for commercial usage in any shape or form ......
I took this information from a post I did on here back in 2012 so just in case you need more information then you need the following link and if you have further queries please contact the Cites office for proper guidance. http://checklist.cites.org/#/en box number one you can enter the common name or the latin name or indeed the name groupage such as Psittaciformes then in the next box you can either leave it as all or if you wish to see if a particular bird species is on list 1 or 2 or 3 select that number and then in the end box select the country you live in. If you need to speak with the Cites people for clarification then use this details to contact them https://www.gov.uk/guidance/cites-imports-and-exports Defra issue the paperwork but Cites control it .... And the Cites people are lovely and really easy to chat too no issue too small for them to help out with not scary peeps as is often thought about speaking to "The Government"
So are all these birds on the "cities" list so you need to get pappers for them to sell them? because you have indian ringneck on that list and i dont see any being sold with papers
It is an African Ringneck on the list.
Hi Olsha and to the forum
As Parrot797 States the Indian Ringneck Parakeet- Psittacula krameri manillensis is not under CITES regulation
The African Ringneck Parakeet Psittacula Krameri Krameri is Appendix I classified
All Appendix I classifed species require Article 10 paperwork to cover sales and any other commercial use.
the CITES I ringneck is native to Ghana another of the same family the Echo (slightly larger) also known as the Mauritus parakeet is also on the list. but unfortunately the Seychelles parakeet and the Newtons Parakeet are thought to be extinct. @Parrot797 have you seen the blue and white Macaw called Silver (I know you are interested in rear mutations)
Separate names with a comma.