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Michael Reynolds

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Tip,,,,,, if you look into there eyes they may get you to buy them parrots are cunning little fellows, you may end up buying the lot Ha Ha, Alan I bought for £30 pounds but he was disabled but the chap who had him had others that he was selling and offered me them for £170 although he was a breeder they was still quite young but weened
 

Oli Fry

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All amazons can be very noisy. Make sure you hear one performing its morning or evening squawking before buying! I personally like Amazon calls but you might not. On the plus side they tend to be more hardy and resilient than African greys, for example. I recently visited a zoo in Norfolk that has a lovely flick of orange wings. They looked wonderful but the noise was something else!
 

Michael Reynolds

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I have had males and females, I have found the most curious are the males, IMG_0811.JPGIMG_0613.JPG
top photo is Charlie the Bottom is Conker the female, you will notice the long nails this was the day she arrived at my place, She allows me to keep them trimmed although she rather I did not but she has never bit me and not quite as close as Charlie is to me she is still lovely
 

Scott199

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Hi all, sorry to bring this back up, I’ve been reading, researching, more reading after all your info.
Been to a couple bird/pet shops around my area, well I say around, the closest is around 2 hrs away, looking for OWA’s to see, play with and see if we ‘click’

but both have advised, seriously advised against it, with comments like, extremely noisy, single person and will dislike all overs, most likely will attack, very nippy and prone to biting, one even said they refuse to have them in the shop due to the noise and the fact customer leave it’s that bad.

I’m so confused, most of you said of all my choices these seemed by far the best option, and most of my research suggested the same.

I honestly thought I’d found the right choice for us.

Do you agree or disagree with the comments I’m hearing ?
 

Michael Reynolds

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I disagree, yes you can come across an OW like that I think that DizzyBlues bird is not so friendly. but as far as the amazon family go they are by far normally a very stable bird, I have had five in my time and worked with a flock of 12 birds together, never been attacked by one yet, yes they do have there favourites, Charlies number one is my ringneck Dobie, his no two is Conker, I am his number three and he accepts all my visitors. Conker is a little bit shy of new people but she is also sweet and nice, her no one is Charlie, then Bella a yellow ringneck I am third again. yes they have there favorits but they are not the type of bird that will go out there way to attack others, noise and calling can be trained out of them. I doubt if any of the people in the pet shop have had one in there home.
 

Yellowchickenparrot

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A Amazon or grey can kick out some serious noise and it can drive people nuts over time, my two are fairly quiet and when they are noisy they make funny noises or shout words, whistle songs etc so it's quite amusing but it can be loud if your in the same room and they are on one. Some parrots dont mimic and just squwark and scream which can be a grinding noise on you and the family over time. Parrots are absolutely full of character and so so different in noise temperament mood etc etc. The amazons and greys are fairly big birds and both very smart it's fair to say most birds have a favourite and will tolerate others family members but not let them touch them and some birds are very excepting of other family members but I feel that's less common. Pet shops are not always the best place for views on parrots as they are normally bord stiff, not let out and make excessive noise because of this, yes a screaming parrot in a shop when your trying to talk to a customer or on the phone would put anyone off them lol, smaller tweety birds are easier to care for and less penetrating noise to have in a shop. I visited one of the parrot rescue sanctuaries and met lots of birds it's such a good way to get a feel for a bird and also get to grips with the noise and you will click with the right bird. Weather you buy a baby one or re home a older bird they are all rewarding with time and love and can be brilliant fun. I still side with the OWA being the more excepting bird over a grey, your doing the right thing researching and asking questions it's a big commitment having a noisy parrot in your house lol.
 

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I disagree, yes you can come across an OW like that I think that DizzyBlues bird is not so friendly. but as far as the amazon family go they are by far normally a very stable bird, I have had five in my time and worked with a flock of 12 birds together, never been attacked by one yet, yes they do have there favourites, Charlies number one is my ringneck Dobie, his no two is Conker, I am his number three and he accepts all my visitors. Conker is a little bit shy of new people but she is also sweet and nice, her no one is Charlie, then Bella a yellow ringneck I am third again. yes they have there favorits but they are not the type of bird that will go out there way to attack others, noise and calling can be trained out of them. I doubt if any of the people in the pet shop have had one in there home.
Thank you, now this seems/makes more sense to me knowing what I've read, yes you get good and bad and thats just life with any animal, i used to keep Burmese Pythons when i was younger, i bought two as babies, a albino and standard, (ziggy and diddy), i worked away a lot at the time, ziggy the albino took a dislike to my other half (no idea that snakes even had this potential) he would rear up and hiss as soon as she walked in the room and move her way, i would often get phone calls saying she couldn't get in the front room and was confirmed to the bedroom/kitchen all day :), tbf he was a really temperamental lad, even tagged me on the hand a few times but would happily sit on the couch for hours with us, Diddy on the other hand was just plain stupid, the only snake I've even seen that couldn't climb not even onto the sofa, but he would head toward my other half, curl up on her lap and just sleep for hours, never hissed, bite or even showed a sign he might, so yes i completely understand, these are not cuddly lap dogs, fluffy pooches and i explained that to both shops, but like you say perhaps just had bad experiences with them or just not had the total 100% commitment to work with them.

A Amazon or grey can kick out some serious noise and it can drive people nuts over time, my two are fairly quiet and when they are noisy they make funny noises or shout words, whistle songs etc so it's quite amusing but it can be loud if your in the same room and they are on one. Some parrots dont mimic and just squwark and scream which can be a grinding noise on you and the family over time. Parrots are absolutely full of character and so so different in noise temperament mood etc etc. The amazons and greys are fairly big birds and both very smart it's fair to say most birds have a favourite and will tolerate others family members but not let them touch them and some birds are very excepting of other family members but I feel that's less common. Pet shops are not always the best place for views on parrots as they are normally bord stiff, not let out and make excessive noise because of this, yes a screaming parrot in a shop when your trying to talk to a customer or on the phone would put anyone off them lol, smaller tweety birds are easier to care for and less penetrating noise to have in a shop. I visited one of the parrot rescue sanctuaries and met lots of birds it's such a good way to get a feel for a bird and also get to grips with the noise and you will click with the right bird. Weather you buy a baby one or re home a older bird they are all rewarding with time and love and can be brilliant fun. I still side with the OWA being the more excepting bird over a grey, your doing the right thing researching and asking questions it's a big commitment having a noisy parrot in your house lol.
Appreciated, thank you, as I've said above and to the shop, I'm not expecting perfect, I'm not even expecting pretty good, I'm hopeful, but also a realist, my main concern is really accepting or maybe tolerating is a better word, the rest of the household, it doesn't need to fly to them and sit all day being lovely with others, just not flying at them and attacking every chance it gets (i understand this could happen and is part of life, if it does then we'll work through it or around it, if we need to), I'm not worried about the humans, i more concerned, if it is like this (aggressive to others) then it may need to spend more time in the cage than id really like it to, ideally id like it to be out during the day for at least a few hours while the wife is pottering around, even if its just sat on its play gym or cage, once I'm home then I'm hopefully he/she will be out till bedtime (when ever it decides that is), i can also see all this planning could/prob will go right out the window when the bird attaches itself to my wife and hates me :rolleyes:

but like you say, no matter how much research, speaking, reading, visiting i do will never really prepare me for what may lie ahead, but as i said to the shop, if i can edge my bets with the correct choice, this is the best i can do, but still told that was certainly not a suitable "first parrot".

I'm off to the southwest bird show this Sunday, so hopefully that will shed some light on my ideas, or maybe just confuse me more ;)


And let's be honest, all the reading, planning, preparation is never going to completely prepare us, at this point, even with months of research i know maybe 5% of what i need to know but that will only happen with the experience of owning one.
 

Yellowchickenparrot

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Well said Scott sounds like you got the jist of it, get a feel for what birds you like at the show then you can narrow it down and commit to finding the right one. Go straight in and get the parrot you want dont be fooled to get something that statistically looks easier to keep etc etc as at the end of the day you will wish you got the parrot you wanted and dreamed of having.
 

Scott199

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Go straight in and get the parrot you want dont be fooled to get something that statistically looks easier to keep etc etc as at the end of the day you will wish you got the parrot you wanted and dreamed of having.
well, yellow thighed caique is what i really want but common sense needs to prevail here i think, well for me anyway, heard such bad things, im not going to drop myself into the fire, but i have met quite a few amazons now, not the OWA yet, but trying, but others and really like the attitude they seem to have, even some that didn't seem to like me still chatted in the cage to me.
 

Michael Reynolds

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I am sorry to hear they do not recommend an amazon as a first bird, to me any bird can be a first bird, if you go for a budgie it dose not prepare you for a bigger parrot, you will need to find out as much information as possible about any bird you take on, my first bird was a snowy Owl called Tango
 

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I do like the amazons they mostly tick the boxes obviously as above it's a bit luck of the draw to. I had a kak parrot which was a tad bigger than a budgie and he was the most savage bird I have ever been around lol. I do agree with Michael having a budgie is not the same as having a big parrot and the most important and valuable thing is to research prepare and ask questions, we are all here to help and advise.
 

Scott199

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I wonder if you will just click with a bird that you wouldn't anticipate having?
To be honest i Thought I’d done that with the 14 month Senegal I found, in the pet shop she came to the cage edge, let me scratch her head, then when I moved she followed me, next time I put my finger in she hopped on it and made me use my other hand so I couldn’t get away, others walked by or up to the cage and she moved to the back, as soon as they moved away she came back.
I asked if she would step up, they closed the doors (we were in a smallish room) and said “try it” and she did, stayed out of the cage for a few minutes on my hand/wrist but someone else came near and she hopped back i the cage.

still think I missed that one, but came home researches Senegal as I’d never even thought of them and by the time I’d thought about it and asked a few, she was gone.

but I’m in no rush, I’m assuming that as I took so long to think about it and she sold it wasn’t meant to be that time.
 

Wendy Cooper-Wolfe

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Well thats a shame - As I said before our Senegal is possibly more tolerant than many but she is great at swapping freely between me and my husband as her carer (we are in a drawn out transitional period of moving from the UK so she has had to endure long periods with only one or the other of us).
I am sure you will know when you find your bird (or rather when they find you).
 

Scott199

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Just to keep you all updated, spent a little time with an amazon, not an OWA but took advise and yes when you call they really do CALL :p.

and I have had them out and the size of beak does make me a little bit scared, I flinch a little when they use their beaks to feel/touch, this could be normal and will pass, but I certainly don’t want to pass my nervousness into any bird.
I have a breeder local to me that has parent reared yellow sided conures, not been to see or anything but maybe a worthwhile thought ?

They seem to be playful and robust little guys, I’ve heard they can be nippy, I’m fine with nippy, it’s the chomp bit of the bigger ones that’s a little worrying.

thoughts on yellow sides conure ?

oh I also joined the parrot society and also joined "A Parrot Charity Site" pet rescue just to keep my options open, if I go for a medium sized/caique/amazon type I will foster, at least I will get an idea of temperament prior.
 

Oli Fry

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Good for you. Finding out all you can in advance is the way to go. Anyway, as you know, there is no perfect species, but at some point you'll find an individual bird that you feel most comfortable with. Conures are fun and full of character - like tiny macaws.
 
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