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Michael Reynolds

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All birds can be noisy, I got Charlie owing to his phone rings, but most of the time he talks and at the moment is my best talker in the flock, they mainly settle in a home easy although you can get them whom get scared but love and attention always wins these birds over, Conker the female is not a talker and was very nervous when i first got her, She now lets me handle her and trim her nails and neither have ever tried to bite me in fact I have never been bit by a orange wing. they are nosy, will watch you like a hawk and try to see what you are doing, as there character they are more stable and than the greys, they can take a little longer to gain full trust I think it took me about a year with Conker but Charlie took to me within a month, they like attention and will rather keep away from strangers or people they do not trust than bite or attack. ok every one can be different and we can only go by our experience . they can live a long life I cannot say anything bad about the ones I have kept but training is a must. mine that i have had or kept have never been destructive, I am sure other members will give there findings including Kendra whom I know is just as nice
 

Scott199

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Thank you and I do appreciate everything I’m told is from experience and that may not be what I experience, so yes I’m only using all your advise as just that “advise” with no guarantees.
are you anywhere near somerset ?
 

Michael Reynolds

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No I am in Kent, if you was closer I would invite you to meet my flock, it will give you a better idea of some species and let you know more about what you are about to let your self in for Ha Ha
 

CaptainHowdy

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Just to give the other side of owas I have 2. Both are rescues. My first one is very wary of strangers and really hates men. He will happily lunge and go for any one he doesn't like the look of if they get too close.
He is noisy and destructive. He had a very bad start to his life and was treated appallingly by males before he came to me. It took him a good 6 months to settle in which is when his vocals came into play lol. He is trsined to step up and fly to me. To put his feet up for me to inspect and put a foot through the bars where I can hold onto it and check nails etc if needed. He is also trained to raise his wings up when asked. Amongst other fun tricks he's picked up for treats lol.
He does not talk.
In the time I've had him I've introduced him to my family and friends and he is very much a one person bird. He took an instant dislike to one of my family for no reason that we can tell. He was originally kept in the house as a pet but I found he preferred an aviary where be could be as destructive and noisy as he liked. I am the only person he respects but even then he will test me at times and during breeding season I avoid going into his aviary wherever possible as he has lunged for me plenty. Not his fault as he now has a partner in crime who he is protecting.

Which brings me onto my other owa again a rescue. But whereas Rocky was 5 when i took him on Lex is more likely to be approaching if not well into his 40's. He is not a young bird by any means and it shows in his attitude and behaviour.

Rocky is boisterous and destructive and always up to mischief and Lex is very much the old man of the group and he likes to do his own thing. He is very laid back and again will happily come to me for treats but I have never taught him to step up. Mainly as he was meant as a pal for Rocky rather than a pet for myself. Rocky and Lex have bonded extremely well. I can still handle Lex when he needs to go into a travel cage and he is much more relaxed about it. Likewise he isn't too fussed about people. Now I have seen him aggressive with people but it has been very specific people. Since being with me he hasn't lunged at anyone and he rarely growls - normally if Rocky winds him up and he's had enough!
He is a very laid back sweet bird.

So every bird is different and there is no guarantee you will get one that loves all the family or indeed tolerates certain people.

Likewise sometimes taking on a rescue can be beneficial as you tend to know their behaviour and personality better. Babies are cute and fun but then they hit maturity as they can do a complete 180. The person they loved before they will now fly across the room at. That's why you see a lot of birds being rehomed around that age. The terrible 2s can be very testing and they will test you and bluff you and even bite you. It's down to how you react that will help shape their behaviour.
 

Scott199

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No I am in Kent, if you was closer I would invite you to meet my flock, it will give you a better idea of some species and let you know more about what you are about to let your self in for Ha Ha
Where to in Kent? I spend my life driving to site meeting and often find myself around that area, or I was in Seven oaks last week
 

Scott199

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Just to give the other side of owas I have 2. Both are rescues. My first one is very wary of strangers and really hates men. He will happily lunge and go for any one he doesn't like the look of if they get too close.
He is noisy and destructive. He had a very bad start to his life and was treated appallingly by males before he came to me. It took him a good 6 months to settle in which is when his vocals came into play lol. He is trsined to step up and fly to me. To put his feet up for me to inspect and put a foot through the bars where I can hold onto it and check nails etc if needed. He is also trained to raise his wings up when asked. Amongst other fun tricks he's picked up for treats lol.
He does not talk.
In the time I've had him I've introduced him to my family and friends and he is very much a one person bird. He took an instant dislike to one of my family for no reason that we can tell. He was originally kept in the house as a pet but I found he preferred an aviary where be could be as destructive and noisy as he liked. I am the only person he respects but even then he will test me at times and during breeding season I avoid going into his aviary wherever possible as he has lunged for me plenty. Not his fault as he now has a partner in crime who he is protecting.

Which brings me onto my other owa again a rescue. But whereas Rocky was 5 when i took him on Lex is more likely to be approaching if not well into his 40's. He is not a young bird by any means and it shows in his attitude and behaviour.

Rocky is boisterous and destructive and always up to mischief and Lex is very much the old man of the group and he likes to do his own thing. He is very laid back and again will happily come to me for treats but I have never taught him to step up. Mainly as he was meant as a pal for Rocky rather than a pet for myself. Rocky and Lex have bonded extremely well. I can still handle Lex when he needs to go into a travel cage and he is much more relaxed about it. Likewise he isn't too fussed about people. Now I have seen him aggressive with people but it has been very specific people. Since being with me he hasn't lunged at anyone and he rarely growls - normally if Rocky winds him up and he's had enough!
He is a very laid back sweet bird.

So every bird is different and there is no guarantee you will get one that loves all the family or indeed tolerates certain people.

Likewise sometimes taking on a rescue can be beneficial as you tend to know their behaviour and personality better. Babies are cute and fun but then they hit maturity as they can do a complete 180. The person they loved before they will now fly across the room at. That's why you see a lot of birds being rehomed around that age. The terrible 2s can be very testing and they will test you and bluff you and even bite you. It's down to how you react that will help shape their behaviour.
Thank you, I assumed it would be roughly the same as others, I’m not expecting perfect but if I could edge my percentage by choosing the right one.
I’m expecting hard work and some problems, I’m trying to go in eyes wide open, so thank you.
 

Scott199

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I’m starting to think that I should just go with what I want ?
Seems they all have the good, the bad and the ugly and all I can do is research and know as much as possible then it’s a case of learn as you go ??

The one I always seem to go back to is the white bellied caique ?

I’ve kind of moved on/decided against the Senegal as most, maybe not all seem to get attached to one person and that may cause a problem, especially if it takes a dislike to my wife who’s home all day, I know I will never know and this could happen for anything we get, playing the numbers I feel a higher chance with senagals this could happen.

the OWA does seem a great idea, although I can’t really find to much about them, maybe that’s because they are just calm, with little or less problematic nature, generally the internet is full of the best and worst, so possibly that’s the reason I’m struggling to find a great deal of info or first hand experinace on them ? Or are they just “not so desirable” therefor less in the pet world ?
 

dianaT

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If you join the Parrot society UK you pay a small yearly sub. You will receive a monthly mag where breeder of all specie advertise. Also interesting articles in there too.
You may it worthwhile to join. I think it's approx £24 a year. You can join on-line (sorry if I've mentioned this before I know I told someone a short while ago - it may have been you!)
 

Dorbren

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If you join the Parrot society UK you pay a small yearly sub. You will receive a monthly mag where breeder of all specie advertise. Also interesting articles in there too.
You may it worthwhile to join. I think it's approx £24 a year. You can join on-line (sorry if I've mentioned this before I know I told someone a short while ago - it may have been you!)
Brilliant idea ... I think I will subscribe too
 

Wendy Cooper-Wolfe

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Hello, Good luck with your quest, and I hope you find the right bird for both you and your wife.
Just to help with another case history - we have a Senegal that we have had since she was about 8 months old - found in the pet section of a garden centre in a floor standing cage (just the right height for kiddies fingers to poke at her etc) When we brought her home she was immediately happy with my husband but took about 4 months to be comfortable with me (oh the tears of frustration at trying to bond and get her to step up!)
He was retired but I was still working and so at that point we shared her care as much as possible, we are now both retired and she is now bonded fairly equally with both of us (but we in the long drawn out process of relocating so she has either him or me and sometimes both).
She rarely bites my husband, but I usually bear a few nip marks to my hands as Im usually the one to be holding whatever it is SHE wants. However, as far as I can tell she is NOT a typical Senegal. She can be flighty but usually is quite calm, generally well behaved and doesnt destroy much, she doesnt play all that much either. She chatters and if she cant see us she will whistle and shout but in general is not very noisy. I think most of this is because she spends almost all of her time with one of us, carefully observing (and commenting) on what we are doing and so we have learnt her body language and she gets our full attention most of the time.
 

Scott199

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Hello, Good luck with your quest, and I hope you find the right bird for both you and your wife.
Just to help with another case history - we have a Senegal that we have had since she was about 8 months old - found in the pet section of a garden centre in a floor standing cage (just the right height for kiddies fingers to poke at her etc) When we brought her home she was immediately happy with my husband but took about 4 months to be comfortable with me (oh the tears of frustration at trying to bond and get her to step up!)
He was retired but I was still working and so at that point we shared her care as much as possible, we are now both retired and she is now bonded fairly equally with both of us (but we in the long drawn out process of relocating so she has either him or me and sometimes both).
She rarely bites my husband, but I usually bear a few nip marks to my hands as Im usually the one to be holding whatever it is SHE wants. However, as far as I can tell she is NOT a typical Senegal. She can be flighty but usually is quite calm, generally well behaved and doesnt destroy much, she doesnt play all that much either. She chatters and if she cant see us she will whistle and shout but in general is not very noisy. I think most of this is because she spends almost all of her time with one of us, carefully observing (and commenting) on what we are doing and so we have learnt her body language and she gets our full attention most of the time.
thank you, appreciate your time.
 

Kendra

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I can only say for my Chorley, he is 7 or 8 years old. He loves to be on my head, yep, sitting on my head or my granddaughters. He does prefer women but my husband has just not bothered with him, he works long hours and is away from home an awful lot, he does accept food from him. Chorley is the least biter or nipper of my flock, does have off times when I just leave him alone. He used to happily climb onto my hand but since I had to towel him in an emergency he will not do that now, good memory. He much prefers to be in with people as opposed the other birds, even if doing nothing.

Why do I call him a clown? not sure he just is. Calls himself Chorley, Chorley, uck, uck (Chorley chuck, chuck), mimics the other birds and constantly saying 'ouch' copied from me being hit by the cage door, perches, etc. Really hard to explain.

Can not send any pictures due to each one being too big? Would have showed how daft he can be.
 

Scott199

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Does anyone know of any breeders of OWA’s in or around somerset ?

Looking for somewhere to go to spend some time with them, chat and possibly buy from a respected breeder.
 

Michael Reynolds

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I am sorry I do not know that area, out of the amazons they are the most common in captivity in this country, they are not to hard to come by from breeders and they are not to expensive. is there any parrot shows you can visit, I see more around march and April time
 

Scott199

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I am sorry I do not know that area, out of the amazons they are the most common in captivity in this country, they are not to hard to come by from breeders and they are not to expensive. is there any parrot shows you can visit, I see more around march and April time
There is a bird show I’m going to Sunday, no idea if they have parrots but I’m sure it will give me some ideas.

just thought I’d ask here for recommendations

price wise, what should I expect to pay for a baby ?
 
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