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Help With Indian Ringneck Need.

Discussion in 'Behaviour' started by Samin Alakozay, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. Michael Reynolds

    Michael Reynolds Regular Member

    Yes looking at these photos it dose look like a small injury there is no bleeding and it looks like it has dried well.
     
  2. dianaT

    dianaT Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Lovely photos and cage too. Just make sure she does not keep pecking at the area on her chest, as it will get bigger and become a habit and even infected. If it is not healing in my opinion she will need to see an avian vet.
     
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  3. Roz

    Roz Regular Member

    Seems a bit weird that it's directly on the keel bone. I wonder if she had an accident before you got her. Excellent advice from Diana.

    Re the food I wouldn't remove Jacki's food during the day. All you are doing is taking advantage of them not having eaten through the night. Birds tend to pick here and there throughout the day. You don't want her to go hungry if she misses the time slot. What I find here is that as soon as I exchange the breakfast bowl for the supper bowl, everybirdie is interested to see what's in the supper bowl. The cue for going back into the cage is me slotting in the new bowl.

    Each time you slot in a new bowl make a big thing about it... or if she is still a little frightened, just make sure she can see you put it in. You might want to pair the slotting in with the same words each time. I usually say something like "Yum YUM!" In fact Kobe (Pionus) now says "Yum YUM YUMMY" when I slot in his bowl. If you have slightly different things in the bowls for each meal, it makes it more reinforcing to go see what inside!
     
  4. Samin Alakozay

    Samin Alakozay Regular Member Registered

    hi all, hope your all well...

    I have a plan and a cage update that I wanted to run by all of you to make sure I’m not doing anything wrong that would harm the bird in any way.
    I have brought a "calcium block" (see picture) as I was told this was important in a parrot cage.
    the calcium block is attacked inside the cage at all times and the parrot can access it as she likes (see picture attached)
    is this calcium block a good idea, will it have any negative impacts on the bird at all?

    JACKI is very calm now when I’m changing the dirty news paper from below her, cant put anything else such as sand/grit/wood ect as the bottom if the cage is above the ground and will fall straight through to the bottom section. I have been told however that I need to have some find of sand for the bird to clean it self which rather confuses me as I thought parrots was with water.

    if special sand/grit is required please can you guys provide links on where to buy them and would having it in a medium bowl at the bottom of the cage be okay?


    my plan for the next week...,
    JACKI has 3 bowls.
    1. normal seeds bird food.
    2. water
    3. fruit bowl/ (SHE LOVES FRUITS)


    my plan is to remove the fruit bowl from her cage from 4-5pm and reintroduce around 8pm with different mixed fruits.
    after 1 week of doing this I will open the cage door at 7pm and still put new fresh fruit at 8pm... hopefully if the bird is out the cage for 1 hour fresh fruit bowl would make it go back in!!
    as there is a lot of glass doors where the bird is I might just leave the bird come out on his own accord with out any encouragement as he might hurt him self in panic mode.
    if you have a better way of making the bird go out and back in then please let me know..

    behaviour update:
    she is no where near wanting to step up on fingers or anything and still freaks out when hands go near her, however when near her she screams until attention is given,
    we have devolved a new game where I move my hand to the right and left and he also matches my movement with his body (FEELS AMAZING WHEN WE ARE IN THIS ZONE)

    but if I try to get close she stops playing games and goes into scare mode.

    THANKS FOR READING/ REPLYING!
     

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  5. Michael Reynolds

    Michael Reynolds Regular Member

    IMG_0451.JPG First of all you do not need sand so do not think of providing it. try spaying your ringneck with water at room temperature or slightly above every other day they just love a good soaking. Getting your bird used to windows can be a problem as the last thing you want is your bird flying in to one at great speed (I had a Ferrell ringneck called Pringle whom had bone damage to its skull a feral bird that flew into the window of some ones home, he came to me still having fits owing to brain damage but managed to recover over a few years. he is now free out side and visits me every so often with his family, I know it is Pringle by his words and talking ability) if you can cover the windows with a net curtain and move the cage so the door is open close to the window he will not get much speed up to injure her self if she dose try to fly through it. once he realises that there is something there she will remember it. millet is a good way of encouraging your bird to trust you. start by just placing your hand slowly at the bottom of the cage holding the millet at its longest length so it is near where you bird is sitting. do not worry if your bird dose not take it at first and after 10 minutes just slowly remove your hand and place the millet on top of the cage. this will also help her to trust the millet and encourage her to try it. when your bird has gained courage to take your offering a couple of times then shorten the length of the millet so your hand gets slowly closer. if your bird dose not take the millet at all try doing the same with a piece of apple or a grape on the end of a twig. One thing I will say is that by putting your hand in her cage you must remember you are in her safe place and must be careful not to make her panic and let her come slowly to you, None of my ringnecks have ever touched the calcium block but they all love cuttle fish and making a mess with it. When I work with older ringnecks I normally allow three months for the aviary birds for some to start trusting. feral you can double that, but often they can trust a lot quicker. Photo of Charlie and Pringle together
     
  6. Samin Alakozay

    Samin Alakozay Regular Member Registered

    @Michael Reynolds thanks for your reply!
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Smiday-Ref...r=8-2-spons&keywords=water+spray+bottle&psc=1
    is this product good enough to spray jacki, im assuming it doesn't matter what time of the day I try this right?
    if the bird breaks out what do I do?

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Smiday-Ref...r=8-2-spons&keywords=water+spray+bottle&psc=1

    is this good product millet to order?
    I didn't understand the point where you said " do not worry if your bird dose not take it at first and after 10 minutes just slowly remove your hand and place the millet on top of the cage."
    if I put the millet on top of the cage the bird can still eat it through the bars... is that what we are trying to achieve? if yes then is there a reason why we cant place the millet inside the cage?

    sorry if sound confused im trying to learn so one day I can teach others!

    thanks in advance!
     
  7. Michael Reynolds

    Michael Reynolds Regular Member

    IMG_1056.JPG Ok the millet question. if you was to place the millet in the cage your bird will just be frightened of it (negative effect) or eat it and destroy it (good for your bird but dose not encourage your bird in getting used to the hand) as it will get what you have offered any way. by placing it on the top your bird will get to check it and as you say still be able to get to a little of the seed. it gets the taste that when you try next time whit it being held. your burd will not be so scared of the millet stick and knows it tastes nice so will be more likely to take some. the spray bottle is ok.
     
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  8. dianaT

    dianaT Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    May I add that you should not give your bird grit, parrots do not need to have grit and it can cause problems. They may or may not nibble on the calcium block or you could put cuttle fish in the cage bars, some like to nibble at that - it keeps the beak busy. I buy my sprays at garden centres they are usually about £1.25 or thereabouts and I use just warm water in it.
    We all learn off each other so do keep asking and I am sure other will be answering you too.
    As for millet I don't know what shops are near you but often pet supply stores sell it in bunches for about £1 or so. Make sure it is clean and looks fresh.
     
  9. Michael Reynolds

    Michael Reynolds Regular Member

    I often sprout my millet by keeping it moist for about four days and is a great favourite within the flock and especially loved by my budgies love birds and tiels, the ringnecks and other medium sized members also love it sprouted.
     
  10. Samin Alakozay

    Samin Alakozay Regular Member Registered

    Hi all
    Hope everyone is doing well
    So I think jacki has settled down pretty good. I haven’t tired to millet idea yet however at 8pm every single day a different fruit is given to the parrot which he loves !!! In the odd occasion a peanut...(his all time favourite)
    For the first time I have left his cage open and given him some space to come out
    I have placed a peanut as a treat to come out on a chair. It attempted a few times but she’s not coming out and eating her normal food...
    Is this okay? How long should I leave the cage open ?

    Thanks
     

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  11. Michael Reynolds

    Michael Reynolds Regular Member

    you can leave the cage open for as long as you can let her investigate at her own pace, but you must always think you do not want to chase her if she comes out just to get her back in, she needs to know she is safe in the home and not just in the cage
     
  12. Samin Alakozay

    Samin Alakozay Regular Member Registered

    Thank you for your reply... she didn’t want to come out but will try again later...
    I have been thinking of getting another ring neck a Male!! Jack had a friend but he / she flew away from the previous owner..
    so I’m thinking of getting a tame Indian Male ring neck which should help jacki become tame too seeing the other bird being held ect. Let me know if this is a good idea. Thanks ?!!!
     
  13. Samin Alakozay

    Samin Alakozay Regular Member Registered

    @Michael Reynolds i just sprayed jacki with water to try and get her to clean her self. She enjoyed it a little it also was a little spooked

    How often should I spray her ? Once a week? (The water was mild/warm)

    The cage is open and jacki still showing no interest of coming out.
    We shall wait and wait!!!
     
  14. Michael Reynolds

    Michael Reynolds Regular Member

    once every three to four days is fine during the winter, if she is in moult ,then every other day, they love it when they get properly soaked
     
  15. Samin Alakozay

    Samin Alakozay Regular Member Registered

    @Michael Reynolds thanks for your reply.
    I’m keen to know what you think about my previous post about introducing another bird to the cage?
    Not sure if you saw that message

    Thanks !!! Your help means a lot !
     
  16. Michael Reynolds

    Michael Reynolds Regular Member

    I will have a look and answer later how long ago did she lose her partner?
     
  17. Samin Alakozay

    Samin Alakozay Regular Member Registered

    @Michael Reynolds thank you for the reply!! I believe shortly before we got her. So a few weeks ago.

    Jacki has official left her cage!!!
    It’s first time She’s left the cage and im a little panic mode!! Do I just leave her be to explore her new surroundings ?

    I’m about to leave her treats at 8pm which I usually do every day hopefully that will make her go back in right ?

    Please agree with me I’m so scared right now and excited !!!
     

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  18. Michael Reynolds

    Michael Reynolds Regular Member

    just leave her and let her see the treats and you putting them in the cage. let her go in by her self, she will when she fills hungry or tempted by the treats. its good to see her getting braver so she has to fill its safe out, do not try to chase her if you need her to go back then make the room darker but not dark
     
  19. Michael Reynolds

    Michael Reynolds Regular Member

    I would not get another bird yet and if the time comes that you fill is correct then do not put them in a cage together until you know they are getting on well and seeing them passing food
     
  20. Samin Alakozay

    Samin Alakozay Regular Member Registered

    @Michael Reynolds thanks for the Rapid response
    I have turned off the light in that room with only slight light shining towards the cage

    Is this good enough ?
    As it’s her first time I’m hoping she will to in her self but she’s living the branches and trees !!
     

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