Help taming 2 parrotlets

Roz

Regular Member
Great work with Pan!

So really with Leche it is more reinforcing for her to come out of her cage than to take a treat from your hand inside the cage. And when she's out she is more likely to interact with you. That's where I would start working from then... outside the cage when she sounds more relaxed... and therefore more receptive to learning.

I would stop trying to work with her in the cage for now as you are competing with the greater reinforcer of freedom (maybe in the future you can come back to it). When she's out, you say you throw seeds at her - are they the sunflower seeds? Definitely keep pairing yourself with the seeds... if she begins to eat them at a certain distance from you, wonderful! It means she is relaxing. Then gradually toss them so they land closer and closer to you. You may eventually be able to give her one from your fingers. When this starts happening you can train anything you like, including the step up... using the clicker or not.

Some birds do have a fear/phobia of hands depending on past history etc. You'll only be able to tell when you start training the step up. If she is truly phobic about hands you can always teach her to step up on a hand held perch instead. With training it is all about trying various ways. If one doesn't work, try a different approach.

Animals also learn by modelling/copying, so yes, if Leche sees Pan being reinforced for various behaviours, it will certainly get her thinking about how to get those reinforcers too. She will need to gain confidence and trust in you though first.
 

Tonifrax

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Great work with Pan!

So really with Leche it is more reinforcing for her to come out of her cage than to take a treat from your hand inside the cage. And when she's out she is more likely to interact with you. That's where I would start working from then... outside the cage when she sounds more relaxed... and therefore more receptive to learning.

I would stop trying to work with her in the cage for now as you are competing with the greater reinforcer of freedom (maybe in the future you can come back to it). When she's out, you say you throw seeds at her - are they the sunflower seeds? Definitely keep pairing yourself with the seeds... if she begins to eat them at a certain distance from you, wonderful! It means she is relaxing. Then gradually toss them so they land closer and closer to you. You may eventually be able to give her one from your fingers. When this starts happening you can train anything you like, including the step up... using the clicker or not.

Some birds do have a fear/phobia of hands depending on past history etc. You'll only be able to tell when you start training the step up. If she is truly phobic about hands you can always teach her to step up on a hand held perch instead. With training it is all about trying various ways. If one doesn't work, try a different approach.

Animals also learn by modelling/copying, so yes, if Leche sees Pan being reinforced for various behaviours, it will certainly get her thinking about how to get those reinforcers too. She will need to gain confidence and trust in you though first.
okay great that's kind of what I've been doing with her. I throw a sunflower seed and she comes over to eat it and then the next one i throw closer to myself. She did used to eat out of my hand when they were both in the same cage but now shes figured out she can just sneak past and out the door so she tends to just fly out but she is exploring more outside the cage and does spend a lot of time watching me. Pan was a bit weird with hands. We did step up but onto a perch first and then i moved by hand closer to him each time until i could get rid of the perch. Then he would only use one foot and have his other one on the perch in his cage or even tucked up against his body...anything to avoid having both feet on my hand. He used to put one foot on and move the other one back and fourth from his perch to my hand but now he's fine with going on my hand. Leche was actually standing on my hand the other day to eat sunflower seeds out of it but I could tell she was eyeing up the cage door and quickly made her escape
 
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