Well thanks for your replies. They are apparently blue and gold, and red winged. Unfortunately the deal has fallen through. My friend has given up on his promotion overseas and he wanted 2k each and for them to be kept together. I cannot afford or accommodate both. I’ve done a ton of research and although I think I would be a good Mac owner its a huge expensive ting to undertake at the moment with all the uncertainty. From what I can gather my best start would be getting an indian redneck. Incidentally i’ve joined some facebook macaw clubs and 99% of the posts are from new people with 3 month old RW MAcs, people who have never even owned a bird before - who are suffering problems. Meanwhile the prices are skyrocketting. I may not be a bird owner but I am an economist. I see, in a years time a massive amount of abandoned pets. And not just the Xmas puppy type. I think I will settle for some IRN for now and wait until I have some experience. I don’t want to be one of those d*** heads