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Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by erithacus, Jun 6, 2015.

  1. TomsMum

    TomsMum Administrator Staff Member Admin

    It was really lovely to see your video ...I don't think there's anything to worry about here...they are getting into the swing of things and all of the movements are part of the game plan......I definitely think that at some point in the fairly ear future they will be nesting :) , as DizzyBlue says they're just about reaching 2 years.....they are beautiful birds.
     
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  2. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    please please HELP am raising both of my hands....What should i do now? i dont want her to lay eggs....she is just two years old...and i am so stressed just thinking that maybe her first time will be painfull and hard and dangerous...Is there any chance that this spring will start "nesting"?pppffffff i feel like an amateur and ignorant....thoughts are crossing my mind : 1) construct a nest and provide them with all necessary material and time so if they do mate and do lay eggs just let them do it (so they get more and more experienced)


    2) do nothing and do not insert a nest and stress them/force them to reproduce (eggs wont be fertile since the male by this spring will be 2 and a half)..I will be very very very harmed if a slight thing goes wrong with downsided for my little princess...


    Im so confused people....i really need your enlighting comments/pieces of advice...All of you guys...thank u so much for your interest and time :)
     
  3. dianaT

    dianaT Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    She is a bit young to lay I think.


    I guess they may 'practise' .  Just keep an eye on them, they will do what comes naturally.


    Should you see them treading  (mating) you can provide a next box but it doesn't necessarily mean that eggs will follow.


    To keep them well and healthy make sure they do have calcium supplement regularly.


    I am sure others will be along with advice.  But don't panic over it.
     
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  4. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    thank you Dianna.....I provide cheese wih 0% fat, 2-3 almonds for each bird,walnuts, celery, egg with its shell ,spinach, carrot leaves...i also use harissons high potency fine and i try to maintain a 2:1 ration in fat acids (omega3 and omega 6) by also giving salmon and herring and tuna, pistachio,quinoa, wild rice broccoli, chia seeds, beans (all kind) and lots of vegetables and chilies and peppers and tomatoes and sweet potatoes and fruits of course...I do not use drops or anything "treated" in order to get acids proteins minerals or vitamins....trying my best for a diversity in food
     
  5. TomsMum

    TomsMum Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Ooops.....I just typed up a longish post, and server/internet blipped, so it didn't submit!


    my apologies Erithacus, I did not mean to alarm or upset you....my fairly near future, was a comment based on a parrot years measure, so a year or two......I wasn't thinking of immediately or in a few months!


    At the moment they are happily getting to know one another and it's lovely because they still want to be interacting with you too. They are great looking birds and obviously in great condition and that's due to the care you give them.


    Mother nature has a great way of controlling what happens when...so I am sure that nothing will happen until both the birds are capable...their in built instincts are marvellous. They do start to display certain behaviours from early on....for example Chiko our Amazon is only 7 months old....yet in his play cardboard box, he squeezes into the corners, starts nodding his head at us, and makes some really curious noises....it's bringing to him the instinct of a nest box I think.....but he's way off maturity age!


    I'm sure others will be along with advice....and rest assured, should yours proceed to the nesting /eggs stage, there'll be lots of experienced people here to help and guide you :)
     
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  6. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    Thank you so much! That was a relieve tomsmum :)


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  7. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    and after he almost squeezed her down...










    she decided that she is ready now to take her weekly bath
     
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  8. Bob

    Bob Bird Whisperer Staff Member Admin

    :dntknw:  that women for you! You never know what is going to happen next!!  :laugh:
     
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  9. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    Hello again forum...today I got the same situation here...while they're outta cage they play they get their dinner and then.... they try to mate...they are lovely though...their relationship is taking a "shape" and they are so sweet...I was wondering though....Is this what they gonna do?Every day? hahahha....seriously?
     
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  10. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

    They are practising for later life it happens in the wild too just not so frequently as foraging takes lots more time up than it does in captivity :)  you could add some things for them to do like hide things into places for them to seek out .... there is a foraging thread on here that you might get some ideas on it was originally done for a competition and we kept all the photo's as it was brilliant for people to get ideas on how to add things to occupy their bird's time and brains in other ways :)  i will pop a link on for you to have a look at.... two minutes will just go find it
     
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  11. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

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  12. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    checking it...


    big THANK YOY Dizzy
     
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  13. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    awsome ideas in there Dizzy...i understand their meaning and the importance but my constant "insecurity"  about foaraging toys (i have some too) is that they can spend so many hours digging it over ond over again that they constantly "miss" the dishes we are offering...they can easily skip launch (and all those "short" ones before dinner)  and get str8 to dinner :( and am really worried
     
  14. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

    In the wild they spend hours foraging. You don't have to do it for all their food just add it as a bit of fun from time to time those little wicker baskets that Lou uses with a few tasty nibbles at the bottom are a great idea and when they are done just remove it and leave the food pots.


    They won't starve if you add it to their already available supply ... hmmm how to explain allow them their breakfast then after they have eaten pop a few treats into a little basket as a little exercise game for them to have a go at then remove when its empty its does not have to be a case of taking away their food dish its an added little extra or perhaps leave a few little nuts wrapped in paper for them to have a little look at digging out :)   so instead of getting all their nuts in their dish they have to go find them.... rather like using something as a training treat use it as a foraging treat.


    Occupying their minds is as important as them having exercise and playtime they are highly intelligent birds and were until humans interfered highly successful at taking care of themselves in the wild which is more than we humans are. These are awesome birds, highly intelligent, highly adaptable, long lived and a work of art by mother nature  :thumbsup:
     
  15. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    I understand Your point of view. I Guess foraging is as important as all those dishes...well to be honest all this time I was so worried and stressed because they are babies and delicate and I was so afraid (I still am) of loosing them...all this time, we spend so much time trying different kind of food ( these days we are tasting flaxseed and sprouts) and we consume most of the day without foraging activities (they get only some silly toys to destroy) but we will....


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  16. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

    these silly babies can survive in the wild and travel for hundreds of miles each day, avoid predators and do amazing acrobatic things from very very young :)  they are given genetic information in their eggs from their parents that enables certain instincts to be automatic and not be learned behaviour.  When you offer then a nut in shell remember it wasn't a human that showed them how to figure out if what is inside is worth eating nor if its ripe, they can tell that from picking it up and shaking it before they even think about wasting any effort at opening it.  Put us humans to shame with their cleverness.


    I know how you feel about worrying about them and them being babies, these feathered babies we have are ready to go it alone in the wild before a human baby can even learn how to feed themselves properly! They are just coming up to two years old and already practising for having young of their own, they grow up really fast :)  your there to help them if they falter and that's great its good that they have such a kind and caring owner otherwise they would not have got to where they are now. Every parent has to allow their child to grow and develop, watch them learn and grow up, allow them to make a mistake or two along the way and learn from those mistakes and move forwards on onwards. If they are hungry and there is food and water available they will visit the places they learned that it was freely available from.... think about birds in the wild they know which bird food tables have offering on a regular basis and make sure that they pop by at certain times to double check and top up.  Your not going to be denying your birds their usual food in their usual places merely popping something extra to do elsewhere to find... a little top up treat :)  perhaps something like a grape or two hidden somewhere to discover :)  a new game with a yummy treat.
     
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  17. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    I think it is my own insecurities that prevent them from foraging ( I was born and raised until I almost got 30y.o. With a male CAG in the house... but he passed away at the age of 45 and always felt that his dietary wasn't nutritious enough..so I feel a bit guilty)... I will "edit" it and introduce and hide food and toys and make them get anxious and "pissed" until they Find, destroy and eat somth in there :) how many times should I say that u r a Treasure Dizzy!!!!Thank you!


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  18. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

    No erithacus am not a treasure i am passing on what a kind breeder years ago took time to talk to me about we all sometimes need a little helping hand, he gave that to me freely and i will freely pass it on.


    The grey that you feel so sorry for that passed away hmmmm actually 45 is a good age for a captive bird many do not make it that far i am srry to say, one thing i am sure of though is this ....i am sure that with you around his life was actually enriched in many ways you do not give yourself any credit for.


    Ok here's a little plan your going to ADD to their food not take away so ADD two grapes today that you would not have done and hide them they may or may not find them that way you are not removing from their food nor will you be worrying about them not eating enough then that way your all happy and do this until they know where to find it before you decide to say take two grapes out of their normal food pot to hide :)  how does that sound to you? 
     
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  19. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    That sounds awesome. They are enjoying the sun now and just served the red palm nut ( they love it).. Just hided 2 small boxes 3 almonds and 2 more palm nuts wrapped.... Gonna insert it right away. Hahhahahhah the male keeps asking "what are u doing"?


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  20. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

    He sounds like he knows exactly what your up to and is going to be straight on to where you hid them i can't see them lasting long when he thinks he can get a little something extra to offer his beloved girlfriend :)  
     
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