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Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by erithacus, Jun 6, 2015.

  1. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Beautiful videos thank you for sharing, lovely to see the two of them interacting with each other and not excluding you from the flock in favour of each other :thumbsup:


    Well done on showing them that the perch is actually not going to eat them :biggrin:
     
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  2. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    we all Thank you for your kind words...Yes they do treat me like one of their own kind..i can tell (although this male guy some times he tries to be a little bit dominant...but only for some seconds...i dont really mind so i ignore him..He probably is showing off a bit testosterone for his lady?Dont really know)...That female is so tender and loving and caring and sweet to both of us...her best part is when we both scratch and kiss her neck feathers at the same time...hehehhehe...i believe though she enjoys right there, better a beack rather a fingure :)
     
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  3. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

    sounds like she has you both right were she wants you....taking care of her and lavishing love and attention on her, clever little girl :rose:
     
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  4. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    yes...U r so right....She also get jealous when i pet the male (he doesnt let tha happen often but there are times he really wnats a scratch from me too) and she tries desperately to get the attention from both of us and turn this scratching on her....
     
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  5. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

    a very smart girl :biggrin: keeping both of you focused on the most import thing in her eyes which naturally is her :thumbsup:
     
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  6. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    Yesssss. But I was wondering is that a natural female behavior among grays?The male enjoys my company but doesn't want me to pet him. On the other hand he always accept and enjoys a scratch from her. What is your take on that? If I am a member of the flock why don't I get to scratch him at any time, like she does?


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  7. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

    That's a hard question because nobody truely knows what goes on in the mind of a bird except the bird... hmm my take on it would be from this side....could be right could be wrong....


    Sorry to inform you that errr your not as good looking as the hen bird is she is attractive the male is tolerating you and exceptionally well :) sorry to tell you also but your a pink thing with predator eyes to the front and zero feathers, you can't fly either :dntknw: your accepted as a member of the flock perhaps because you have all the food and you share so some of your traits are well worth having around :) so you have your plus points. The hen bird sounds more human imprinted than the cock bird he sounds more like he spent more time being reared by his parents or just gained his independence sooner. The cock birds are the ones that have to show off how great they are at being providers and protectors that they are the most suitable to be considered as a mate to be father of chicks, the hen bird although once paired she will stand her ground in an argument or fight and only have eyes for her bonded partner well she needs to just be a good mum  :thumbsup:


    hows that sound? anybody else got any ideas?
     
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  8. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    Interesting point of view Dizzy. Very interesting.....He is the man I can tell....when I got him I asked the breeder (in Bulgary)to show me youngsters who were the eggs that hatched first at each clutch. Among 15 birds he showed me, this one had the biggest size of them all but also was the most distant. Thought he was wild or something but it was just 12 weeks old... I didn't care. I liked him a lot...I think u r very right. He must have been left longer with his parents.


    When I brought him 10 days after I got my female, he bonded immediately with her, but took me a week to build some trust between us two. While growing he talks much more and really louder than her, he is very cocky and showing off all the time he also pets her all the time (so does she) and when I scratch her he flies to us and scratch her too....and while we both are scratching the hen I gently move my finger to his neck and then he freezes and stops everything. I get back to the hen and he joins again. This thing over and over again.


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  9. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    dizzy, you also think that when she is paired with him she will stop this triangle? why does she keeps us both now? She splits the "scratching time " as follows


    She flies on my shoulder or my knee and bends her head down and I start scratching (I only pet her a couple of minutes )


    then she flies back to him and tease him a bit and play with him and she also gets lots of scratching from him


    then I also walk there and we both scratch the hen.


    She is almost two years old ( both of them same age)


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  10. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

    she is deciding who she wants and at the moment its both of you your both being sweet and attentive to her :) your both giving her what she wants and they are both juveniles. She isn't fully sexually mature yet but when she is she will decide who she wants to be with for the real attention just pray its the cock bird as she will chase him off and not allow interaction between him and her and him and you! If she chooses him he will be the one to put you in your place she will be a little friendly towards you but not as she is now. It is far better for them to stick to their own species then it is for them to be imprinted on us totally.  Friendly to us and tolerated is great but better they bond to each other :thumbsup: in some way just hope your being seen as a parental substitute at this moment and when she becomes mature hopefully her natural instincts will kick in which is to ensure she does not breed with her "blood family" as she sees it ie siblings and parents. They are beautiful birds and from the videos you have uploaded the way they are interacting with you and each other they show no fear your are obviously getting things right with your interaction with them.  But as they are both now reaching the age of two hormones will start to surface soon and personalities will start to shine through, playing rough will start to come up as will what i can only describe as temper tantrums as they try to make themselves understood and you have to learn their language as much as they yours. This is usually the time most people decide they don't want to be parrot owners anymore when the proper nips and bites start its all about how you deal with it love time and patience will see you through it will all change again in time when they settle again into being adults.
     
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  11. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    dizzy u r a treasure. Frankly u r..... Well I certainly want the hen to choose the male instead of me. That's why I got this weirdo male. As far as the personality thing concerns, the male has already started this behavior u r sayin and some times he bites me but I know when this is about to occur as you said it's on his eyes and body..... So I ignore him or I'm taking him back to his perch/stand and I also do faces of disappointment and he stops...


    On the other hand the hen doesn't bite me. Only if I keep asking from her to open up her wing and check her new flight feathers to count how many baby are still left....


    I think I should reduce petting the hen Dizzy


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  12. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

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  13. charliebirdie

    charliebirdie Regular Member

    Hi do they share the same cage
     
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  14. Lou

    Lou Regular Member

    they are lush aren't they what a handsome pair :)
     
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  15. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

    I think you are correct its time to reduce but not totally stop petting the hen let her feathered friend take over these duties and make their bond begin to strengthen i think she will always keep a special bond with you.  You obviously take great care of them both they are exceptionally beautiful you must be very proud of them both and rightly so :thumbsup:
     
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  16. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member

    Yes they do share the same cage and when i get them to sleep they always share the same perch so that the one bird's feather "touches" the other ones :) ...
     
  17. charliebirdie

    charliebirdie Regular Member

    Ahhhh how sweet you are lucky that they get on so well.I have got a nazzy amazon maybe he needs a friend?
     
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  18. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

    in time you will be that friend .... time, love, understnading and patience charliebirdie and you and your feathered one will build an understanding, a partnership hopefully your bond will strengthen as you both learn to read each other, try hard enough and the two of you will cross the language and species barrier and be inseparable friends always.


    i started my amazon addiction with an old bird called DizzyBlue a wild caught one who hated humans with vengeance, he had earned every right to do that his life had been harsh and not very good he came to spend his twilight years with me. I had more bites than i knew what to do with he used to chase me round the room like a screaming banshee from hell used to have me stood on chairs and standing on tables trying to get out of his way!!! and me i loved the very bones of him. All he had gone through and he was still full of fire and life, both eyes so badly effected by cataracts he could hardly see properly any more due to lack of vitamin A in his diet.  We became best mates i spent my time learning his ways i vowed not to make him learn mine i invited him to share my home not the other way around compromise was the best way to form our friendship. He passed over to Rainbow Bridge and his passing is in the memorial section of this forum which was before this forum was started  so he was remembered here on his anniversary. I have the user name DizzyBlue whichever forum i join i cherish the lessons he taught me, vow to do better and do right by my flock regardless of what i want.  Birds first.
     
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  19. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member



    i adore them both Dizzie....i treat them like delicate flowers...And their diet is awsome...I wish i could feed myself that way too....(big sugar and chocolate fun here) ....They are so cooperative though..they will eat anything introduced and tasted by me.And we excersize daily and also we take our bath weekly (every saturday)...It is my princess and my prince :)


    To be honest im breaking in pieces for this hen..i first got her and spent 10 days with her alone...Those ten days i got so many flashbacks thinking her beeing overbonded to me and all this weird situation and suffer for both of us, so i got her this handsome man :) Ten days later...It is hard but i will reduce touching her back or tail or neck...gggggrrrrrr...


    Im so happy u r telling me that she will always keep a special bond with me....I wouldnt change a thing but i would be really sad to know that she would forget and ignore me :(
     
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  20. erithacus

    erithacus Regular Member



    Dizzy you make me feel...Reading this? memories come into my mind (they constantly do)..Every loss is a big big deal...especially when uve spent so many years with these intellegent creatures...and a loss is a guide for do's and donts...Thank you Dizzy from the bottom of my feathered heart :)


    Charlie we humans seek and find our other half...We build relationships,houses,we live together and we start families..Why would These creatures left aside alone? Yes we can be the best buddies for them and the most carrying ones...but is this enough?Nature just is...