Hello And Please Help!!

Hi Sarah....well that’s some heartening news. We’ll keep our fingers crossed that the antibiotic and improvements in diet show some good results.
 
So.. we went to the vets, and I explained the syptoms as they had appeared, she agreed that they were signs of BPFD, but as she had been showing them for over 3 months, felt that most of the young birds she had seen with it died quite quickly so she wasnt totally convinced as it could also be caused by other things. She felt her crop, listened to her heart etc and said they were all fine, shes not underweight, alert, no signs of respitory problems, poo ok colour and judging by the fight she put up being handled appeared to be in good form. So decided the best thing was to prescribe baytril for 7 days, keep going with the diet, add supplements/nutrabal and maybe get a UBVa lamp. So we are going to monitor her, keep up with the healthy diet and watch for secondary infections and have those treated as and when.

The vet is confusing the early death of birds with African greys who often die at about 18 weeks old if PBFD positive, I would test the bird myself to get some better idea, you do not need a vet and can do it with a feather sample and a vent swab although a blood sample is better if you can do it. This can be done with a sterile needle into a toe then bleed onto a piece of clean paper. A good company will test for about £20, it is always good to retest in about 6 weeks and get 2 clear results in a row. Contact these people to discuss sampling further.
http://www.animalgenetics.eu/Avian/avian-disease-testing/desease-pbfd.html
http://www.animalgenetics.eu/Avian/avian-disease-testing/desease-pbfd.html
 
I remember a statement by Alan Jones in an article discussing non-avian vets treating parrots - he said our birds were not suffering from a Baytril deficiency.

I cannot agree more strongly, the idea of giving a bird baytril because they don't know what else to give it is ludicrous and IMO causes more problems than it cures but there we are, quackery at it's finest (and most expensive).
 
I know what you mean regarding Baytril...just like us with penicillin /amoxicillin.........but given this member’s remote location, I do think that this is better than no Vet at all.
 
I would test her too. if it comes back clear & no improvement with diet/vet drugs then if she were mine I would buy the correct size dose of ivermectrin for birds & treat for mites, I had a pair of kakariki some years ago who came to me minus feathers on head/back + sparse elsewhere. it was mites in their case & had them fully feathered within 2 months with ivermectrin killing the mites
 
Baytril is known as a wonder drug,You give Baytril and wonder if it will cure the problem!Pellets are the "new product"however a friend did some tests on many of these and only 1 came with the correct vitamin and other product as correct,most pellets are made from pea-nuts and sunflower and are often with poor ingredients.
I would strongly suggest sunlight (or access to it with a shaded area)when the weather allows and a seed diet but without citrus fruit.
 
I completely agree with the above. Please test this bird by blood sample. Do it yourself if necessary. Birds can live a long time carrying this disease whilst spreading it to all others around them. It may take years for them to show symptoms.

Unfortunately a lot of vets prescribe baytril when they simply don't know what else to do.
 
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