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Hand Reared Vs Parent Reared

Discussion in 'Parrot Chatter' started by angel_uk, Dec 31, 2018.

  1. angel_uk

    angel_uk Regular Member Registered

    Can I ask for pros and cons in small breeds of parrots please?
    Apart from the price.
     
  2. Michael Reynolds

    Michael Reynolds Regular Member

    Many hobby breeders have been breeding for many years and are very experienced in the birds they have, a good breeder will make sure his stock are well cared for and tested against disease and keep to good hygiene practice. the con side is there are also bad breeders although not so many and its a mine field when you see advertisement's of birds being sold on the web as some people are not honest and are just trying to scam you. not all shops are honest but at least you can see the bird and see how friendly it is with the staff, do not buy a bird if it has been clipped. The practice of wing clipping unfortunately still goes on and instead of a bird liking the human career a clipped bird will rely on a career because it has no choice
     
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  3. sunnyring

    sunnyring Regular Member

    co=parented would for me be the ideal. a baby reared by both the parents and the breeder. a baby who knows what he is but also has always known a human touch. not many of these available though as many parent birds would be unhappy with a breeder messing with the babies.
     
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  4. Wakizashi21

    Wakizashi21 Regular Member

    I would agree with Sunny. A mix is great especially for a baby that needs all the goodies from the parents and for the human to support and the parrot to not fear them. Finding a good breeder can be difficult, but some very trustworthy people out there look after the birds very very well. Wing clipping really does scarr the poor bird forever in most cases so avoid if possible
     
  5. DizzyBlue

    DizzyBlue Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Agree with SunnyRing especially for the first time owner
    For human with knowledge and experience would say parent reared as in the birds best interest...
    Sunnyring can read a birds next action and reaction by looking without actually realising she's reading the body language :) its second nature to her which as a parrot owner where you need to aim for :)
     
  6. Michael Reynolds

    Michael Reynolds Regular Member

    Yes I do prefer Parent reared but in a few occasions and depending on the owners circumstances for example a young family, not too knowledgeable or experienced in the species or the species they are getting then I will recommend a hand reared bird. the other option is parent reared with human contact, with the Senegal unless you want the bird for breeding and in an aviary then it must have human contact from an early age for it to become a good bird in the home. I have not known any one to tame a wild Senegal that has reached the age of ten months with out human contact. I will never buy a bird that has been clipped and I can never recommend any one to buy such a bird, its not that they cannot fly but because the affects that clipping has on the birds mind although a bird that is disabled through birth that cannot fly is completely different and can only prosper by having a human helper. One important fact is a hand reared bird needs human contact through out its life so unless the career is dedicated to giving the bird plenty of human contact then they should not get a hand reared parrot. there is one exception to this and that is the ringneck, the ringneck can be tamed at any age by an experienced person but it can also turn back to its wild state in a short time if it is not loved and given human contact. I have tamed a ringneck that was aviary and was twenty eight years of age and had little human contact and it now lives very happily with its elderly owner in his home (it took nine months).
     
  7. plumsmum

    plumsmum Regular Member

    Could I possibly throw a spanner and ask if you have thought of adopting a bird from a charity instead? There are many sitting waiting for a new forever home, not old birds either. The charity will give you support and advice with the adoption and after with your own liaison to ask questions. If you think you could be interested please PM me hun for more info? It is another good option to having a parrot in your life and one that many overlook.
     
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  8. KEV H

    KEV H Regular Member

    My most tamed bird out of 6 is parent reared double yellow head Amazon can do anything with him
     
  9. CaptainHowdy

    CaptainHowdy Regular Member

    I'm not a fan of handrearing a bird unless it is to save a life. I will only handrear mine in such circumstances and where possible I will try and get that chick back with parents or with suitable foster parents.

    A lot of people assume a handreared bird means it tame and it really doesn't! If you handrear a bird but spend no time socialising the chick you end up with a very confused unhappy bird.
    Equally a handreared bird who has been imprinted onto humans is going to have a lot of issues.

    I currently have a rescue Patagonian conure. He was handreared and clearly doted on at some point. But then for whatever reason he got rehome and from then on he got passed around because he was 'too noisy, destructive, clingy' etc etc. What happened to him in the end was he started plucking. By the time he came to me he was oven ready and I've never been able to break him out of the habit.
    He is also extremely clingy and stresses very easily. He doesn't like change in routine and when he bonds to you he bonds strongly and you are the only thing in his life. And I mean that in the worst way possible. He will scream and scream for your attention. If you are in the house you need to be looking at him talking to him for him to be happy. You can't look at him but talk to someone else because he screams over you. Putting him in a travel cage to go outside or for vet trips stressed him out and he starts contact calling and this is generally the only time he will talk because he gets so stressed about where he's going and if he's coming back home or just being dumped again.

    So I'm sorry but no handreared birds in my opinion. I feel so strongly on this that any bird I end up handrearing i keep myself as people assume too much about them.

    Parent reared birds that have had human contact from 2 weeks is the way I prefer. All my breeding birds know that a couple of knocks on the nest box means inspection time and most top outside and watch me from the opening. The odd one likes to stay inside and try to brood my hand and I have one or two I need to keep out the box as they don't like me manhandling their chicks. But they do eventually learn. This means I can spot problems early on with the chicks. I can make sure they are fed properly and they are kept clean. I can clean the nest boxes with no problems. But it also means the chicks are used to being handled by humans and used to having humans around. They get health checked daily so they are used to this as well.

    Not that doesn't mean they will all grow up to make good pets. It's down to the individual and their personality. Some I've had were only suited to an aviary life with their own kind whereas others went onto to make brilliant companions to people who frequently contact me to enquire about another one.

    You also need to remember that come sexual maturity that bird is going to change and just because it started out cuddly and friendly with everyone does not mean this is how it is going to stay. It could end up absolutely hating you and going for you at every opportunity. It could bond to say a child and then protect that child by attacking others or if it feels the threat is too close the child will be bitten as this is how the bird tells them to move away from danger.

    I would second looking at rescues. A lot of rescues are mature so you tend to have a better idea of what you are getting with them. Plus they can turn out to be some of the most loving birds going. It's not going to be for everyone though as even though not all rescues have issues some will so I would not advise going for one of the bigger species or one with known issues unless you have the experience to handle this.

    A good rescue will be able to match you with the right bird and will also be there to support you.
     
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