Feather Loss

LuciaD

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Hi I am wondering if anyone can help me regarding my crimson rosella. I rescued him some years ago so haven't any idea about his past history or his age but he has always suffered with feather loss. He either pulls it out or it falls out as dont see him pulling them out himself ...well not for sometime but now he has got a bare bum and no long tail feathers. He can't fly as he has patches of missing feathers and they dont grow either. I am going to put a photo up here so you can see him
If anyone has come across it before I will appreciate to hear how you dealt with it.20181222_143803.jpg 20181222_143853.jpg
 

Michael Reynolds

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Hello and Welcome, the first question I must ask is have you had him checked by an avian vet? I love the crimson rosella's and miss them being around my home. I am sorry for asking a few questions but it may help others reading to understand what is going on. I will also tag one of our members whom has a crimson rosella @Sarah-Jane , how old is he?, has he ever been wing clipped?, how long has he been over preening himself? and what is his diet? one last question what is his name.
 

DizzyBlue

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Hi and welcome to the forum.
As suggested avian vet to have a look see if there is perhaps something like a preen gland infection or other infection going on as the plucking looks quite sever
Does your little one get out and about much? Seems very intent on that mirror viewing him/her self. Would suggest a good scrub down of the cage all toys and perches etc with diluted f10 solution to make sure if there is any bacteria lurking around its killed off so as not to re-infect. Do you give any supplements such as nutrobal which is a full multivitamin and mineral coverage rather than just something specific?
Lots of fresh fruit and veggies to help little one when multiple feathers are growing as multiple feathers growing at the same time does deplete the body resources
 

dianaT

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:welcome: from me too. Good advice given. Looks like the little one needs some help. Definitely scrub the cage just in case plus add vits to his food - although no too much. He would likely benefit from some natural perches too, of hazel, apple wood, silver birch, willow (there is a list on the forum of safe wood to use) scrub them first and put ones in in various thickness this exercises the feet also he can chew them too. As he cannot fly does he still come out and climb around, as being given things to do will hopefully keep him occupied.
Well done for rescuing him also for coming on here and seeking advice. We all do our best to help.
What foods does he have please. @LuciaD
 

DizzyBlue

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Ooo yeah Diana new things to chew up and destroy and hopefully occupy the beak elsewhere :thumbsup: excellent thought
 

LuciaD

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Hi thankyou for all the wonderful advice and thankyou for accepting me to the group. Right! ... he is a happy little soul. His name is Peeps. He was named this because if he's covered at night and people are around he peeps under the cover and chats. I let him out every day...I have a small dog and even though she's good with him he chases her and tries to nip her. So I won't leave him out also I used to leave him out and he discovered how to get under the units in the kitchen and used to disappear exploring and I always had to move the fridge to get him out. (I thought I'd lost him one day as my partner left the back door open ..because Peeps is so nosy he'll follow us out to the back covered porch if we don't watch him. So I searched the garden terrified he'd been whisked away by a crow and yes ... he was under the units in the kitchen!!! Anyway so now he only has freedom when we are home him...yes he's had a few munches _the dining room table legs ...my ornament cabinet legs and my spider plants! He's has an explorer personality! He has lots of variety of foods fruit...bread. He gets excited when I have something to eat so I'll always let him have some veg or something crispy. No meat!! I feed him Vitakraft australian seeds topped up with the Vitakraft drug to Cocktail delicacy! And he always has a boredom braker Naturals fruit stick. There are some seeds he won't eat from the packet so I don't know what others I can buy. Sorry I've written a novel. I got vitamin drops for him too! My partner thinks he may have a disease but I'm not sure. We have to travel some way for an Avian vet here. There isn't one locally but will look.
 

dianaT

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We have a list of avian vets on the forum. What area are you in? someone who lives your way and uses one may be able to advise where the nearest is.
I smiled at his name, as many years ago we had a rescue one and due to his call we called it Peepa !
 

Michael Reynolds

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out of all the rosella species the crimson is the most friendly and one species I do miss, Do you spray him regularly? Peepe sounds a lovely bird and full of character.
 

Sarah-Jane

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Hello! :)

I have a Rosella too, they are wonderful birds.

Not much to add other than what others have said. I would firstly take him to a vet if you can, to rule out anything medical.

Rosellas naturally feed a lot on fruits and flowers and so these should be included in their diet. They love berries and mine has a lot of raspberries and strawberries. This is fed along side vegetables too. Try to limit ‘human’ food as things like crisps, crackers contain salt which is not good for them.
Rosellas are also best in aviaries or others of their own kind. Does Peeps have a chance to go outside and get natural sunlight? This is important as they get a lot of goodness from the sun. You can take them out in a travel cage.

My next question would be- did you get Peeps first or your dog? If you had peeps and the dog has come along this could be stressing him out. Birds will naturally be afraid of animals such as cats and dogs so I would keep them completely separate.

Rosellas love to bath. Does peeps ever get a spray? You can get a spray bottle and gentle mist him with warm water. Also provide a large stainless steel dish with clean warm water, he will love to get in and splash around!

Finally, what sort of set up does he have. Cage? Toys? Where is his cage? They like to be busy and so he should have a variety of things to keep him occupied. Shredding toys are good that they can pull apart and provide something to forage in. Sometimes birds pluck because of boredom.






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DizzyBlue

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Great Western is the best place over in Swindon
Scott Veterinary Clinic in Bedford had a lady there that has done avian exams not sure if she's still there though so you would have to double check
 

marley

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Welcome to the site, it looks very unlikely that she has PBFD as her head is normal so it is self mutilation but I would personally check for that to rule it out. If you go to the vet ask about cost of this test and also contact a company called Avian biotec link below, if the vet is very expensive ask them if they would draw the bloods for you to get tested at biotec. ( https://www.animalgenetics.eu/Avian/avian-disease-testing/avian-disease-index.html )

Consider getting DNA sexing done, knowing the sex can help in diagnosis, if the vet is very expensive again use avian biotec who would do it on the same blood sample.

I have something in the back of my head that says the hiding/searching under the cupboards is not really normal for a parakeet which would normally prefer to be out in the open so I would suspect a hormonal female who is looking to set up home? If she(?) were here I would consider going the opposite way on diet and putting her on a very basic seed mix, a clean economy budgie mix and some fresh green maybe rocket, curly lettuce or similar every other day and no fruit or veg which is sugar high for a bird who cannot fly and use energy to a normal level. Bread is not good in my opinion it has far to much salt and refined starch which converts to sugar very quickly. I would stop all vitamins as with vitakraft and vits she may be overloading. My reason for the diet change would be to reduce stimulation. If following any treatment the feathers do start to regrow and are left alone introduce a small amount of boiled egg every other day for the protein and very slowly over months introduce some veg.

Is the bird tame and if yes and you handle don't give head and neck tickles as this again will stimulate sexually as it recreates natural mating behaviour. I would remove the mirror for similar reasons and give chewing toys instead. Bunches of fresh willow sticks would be ideal if you can get them from a local clean source.

You say you cover her(?) at night, is this a full black out cover and how long is she covered? I would suggest get or make a black out cover (https://www.scarlettsparrotessentials.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=cage+cover&x=0&y=0) and use it for 12 hours a day to reduce hormone levels.

This may seem an odd question but do you clean out every day or every few days? the reason I ask is if her dropping are left a couple of days do they grow "fur"? this may indicate a fungal infection which would be easy to treat. What is the colour & consistency of her dropping, can we have a picture if you can't describe them? When you are going to the vet line the bottom of her cage with white paper the day before and take it for the vet to see first hand.

As someone mentioned above get the vet to check for irritation such as blocked or infected preen gland. It is unlikely that it is insect parasites but it is worth considering but I would not use spot on or similar for this as liver function is maybe already an issue and this would put unnecessary strain on it.

Sorry if this lot seems a bit full on but detailed information can help with the problem. Lastly well done for trying to sort the poor little thing out, you are a good person.
 

Michael Reynolds

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if you can post a photo of your birds showing its beak from front view and neck I will confirm the birds sex no DNA needed for this species
 

Parv

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Hi, I'm hoping Peeps is now better and fully feathered.
There is a lady called Sarah who works at Scott's Vets in Bedford. She specialises in Excotic Birds. They charge around £58 for a 15min initial consultation.
 

TomsMum

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@Michael Reynolds you have tagged the wrong person. Parv kindly made an observation about the veterinary practice in Bedford, although the person isn’t shown on their website. It was LuciaD’s Rosella who had the feather plucking problem.
 
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