Falling off perch through the night

Judith Boyd

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Aku made it through the night! :) she fell once I think... but cushioning had the desired effect and it was otherwise an uninterrupted night! So big improvement on yesterday!!!
Seemed okay this morning and eating ok! (Although not interested in the porridge with peas manuka honey and chilli I made her!! Lol...)
Thanks all for reassurance! Calling vet today, so watch this space. Alas, I didn't set up insurance when I first got her... which I will pay for now :(
Will keep you all posted! :) (in school today though... so this evening I'll be back online!)
Thanks again!
Xxx
 

plumsmum

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Judith you are doing a good job and asking all the right questions, I have a grey and she has the best of everything but still plucks lol, no good avian vet will judge you on that. I can't really add to the brilliant advice you have had, good luck and keep us posted.
Mine did hun but to my cost I am finding out he is a bit of a t*t tbh!
 

JackAndRob

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Greys in the wild forage on the ground, so being on the ground rather than a perch is not completely abnormal behaviour. They will roost on branches for safety. What you are describing does not sound like natural behaviour though, and you are right to investigate.

Would it be possible for you to take video of Aku's fits/twitches and any other behaviour that you don't think is right? It will help the vet diagnose what it is, especially if the behaviour is intermittent and the vet does not see it first-hand.
 

Judith Boyd

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Thanks all! Your support means a lot!
And my Dad has said that my Grandmother's estate will cover vet bills, as that is what she would have wanted (& he is so right!) so that is another weight reliever!
9:50 Saturday morning with Benjamin (an "exotics" specialist... but should be able to sort bloods and seeing A vet this week is the main thing... anyone met him?)

Would it be possible for you to take video of Aku's fits/twitches and any other behaviour that you don't think is right? It will help the vet diagnose what it is, especially if the behaviour is intermittent and the vet does not see it first-hand.
This is a great idea! Thank you! If it happens again I will do...

Fingers crossed however she seems back to herself today!!!

Xxx
 

dianaT

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So pleased Aku seems a bit better, and hope it was a good night last night .
Hope all goes well at the vets tomorrow. Which veterinary practice is that?
 

Wendy Cooper-Wolfe

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Hope all goes well tomorrow, yes videos are brilliant, I used to have a chicken who was very wobbly on her oins when in the garden but would only stand stock still for the vet,so a video was great, but we never did find out a diagnosis!
 

Judith Boyd

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She had another good night!!! :D (no falling! (well, one when going to bed, but she randomly did a bat impression on top of her cage while deciding where to roost!!) And I managed to lower her perch a little from where it was!

Vet practice is Anton Vets in Andover... I know there is a very respected avian vet there... but he isn't available tomorrow... BUT I guess if they have experienced vets, then if there's any doubt, things can be referred! So that's all reassuring! Fingers firmly crossed!!

Thanks all!! Will let you know how it goes! I'm thinking I may get her into her tavel cage for tonight, as appointment is 09:50 tomorrow (and half an hour away) so may be better not to have the stress of moving her in the morning!!

xxx
 

Judith Boyd

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Hey all!
Just seen vet!
He's sending me some options by email (with quotes) to think on and decide what's best...
But broadly -
1) investigation: bloods, endoscopy (laparoscopy), and x-ray... with obvious risks of the anaesthetic that would be required and a 2 day stay at the vet...
2) symptomatic treatment: sending off a stool sample that I took today (& I will gather more this weekend to drop in on Monday evening...) and then giving her antibiotics (& possibly painkillers) and see what impact that has...

I am tempted by option 2 as it is far less invasive... she is quite possibly elderly and I am very wary of an anaesthetic.... if option 2 didn't produce any improvement we could then escalate....

Vet thought he heard something with her breathing and that her heart was going very fast (it is a very stressful situation though...)

She was a star!!!! She is just the sweetest natured girl!!!

Xxx
 

dianaT

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I would agree with you option 2.
Yes anaesthetic and 2 day stay at the vet, in my opinion, is risky especially as she is likely to be elderly.
Not surprised her heart & breathing was fast, it was stressful for her poor Aku.
 

plumsmum

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Yes I will second @dianaT opinion. Hopefully this will help, ie she will be better even if Option one is required after all hun yes poor Aku. The vet sounds good ie giving options to consider hun!

The other thing is she has expereinced going to the vet hun, nothing too bad after all. Do take her out for little trips if poss as do not want all of them to end up at the vets do you, kinda gives the game away when the transporter comes out.
 

DizzyBlue

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I would vote for option 2
Plus give her some fatter perches like these Polly's twister perch also in the bottom of the cage at night time add some padding that way if she does fall the landing is not going to split open the keel bone or something like that make sure that if she falls from a top perch there is nothing to hit on the way down so perches at the top should have a perch directly below not one that is going to be hit by being set at a different angle. Bit of a faff but have found it was really useful for my old grey little Henni errr her footwork isn't what it should be but as she has missing toes and had really dodgy balance when she arrived it has helped a lot
To ensure she roosts on the desired perch make it the highest one in the cage birds naturally roost higher up ... apparently safer from any lions you have roaming around your living room at night :nut:
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Michael Reynolds

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As fitting is not a direct danger to her life, it worth going with option 2 to see if there are improvements, of course if she gets to have them more regally then you may need option one. I do hope there will be improvements without her over stressing and for you the worry of her having anaethettic
 

Judith Boyd

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Thought I'd update you all...
Aku was admitted to the vets yesterday, she was in a very sorry state when I got home from school, and had been subdued all week (I'd had some issues with communication with the vet, which delayed getting her sorted, but they rallied well, and stayed late to admit her) she was really doing badly, but they've given her subcutaneous fluids, a calcium shot (her calcium was a little low) and sent off bloods to see what's going on... they have her on a light sedation and in a warm cage, just to try and help her to rally... I think she is where she needs to be... and hoping for a miracle! Even the vet agrees, she is an exceptionally sweet bird...

Everything crossed, and sorry for the poor communication...

Judith. xxx
 

Kendra

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@Judith Boyd I am sorry to her this, maybe they will find out what is really wrong and be able to treat it, poor girl, as you say though in the best place and I have my fingers crossed for good new tomorrow, bless.
 
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