Dusty Toos

Jazzy Bird

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Good morning everyone! Recently Jasmine was sneezing a lot and it worried me. I didn’t notice any other symptoms. I decided I’d try things such as making sure she gets bathed or misted daily, washed the coverings for both bird cages, wiped down her cage etc. She must have known what was in store bc she bathed herself on the day I planned to bathe her. The following day I misted her outside and then the next, she bathed herself again.

Is it possible all the sneezing was bc she and their area needed cleaned up/rid of dust? Maybe her little nostrils were clogged?

I closed the AC vents in the bird room so it would be a little warmer than the 70 degree we keep AC at. ThIs was because I wondered if she had a cold or something. I’ve considered a humidifier for their room too. Closing the AC vents made me wonder if the birds could have issues when taken outside, if the weather is hot and humid as it has been here in Midwestern United States, and then brought back into AC?

I also read that some birds shouldn’t be housed next to dusty birds such as C2. I have Gus, the cherry head Conure, right next to Jasmines cage. Thoughts, advice? Thanks in advance!
 

plumsmum

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Hi, I wonder if your inside humidity is OK as that can be an issue in the States I have heard. Have you an air purifier which is essential with 'too's. You'd probably be best to move the Conure further away. Things like cleaning cages everyday and vacuuming and damp mopping floors will help, you have already got a handle on baths. If you have managed to do the above with no improvement (or things get worse) then your AV should be consulted. Is she OK otherwise? The switching from AC to outside and back again is not what they are used to. I am sure you know birds are susceptible to chills from drafts.
 

Michael Reynolds

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the white Too's are very dusty I will always recommend a air purifier near them and regular showers, birds can suffer with a sudden change in temperature this is why I always sprays to be given at room temperature
 

Jazzy Bird

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Hi, I wonder if your inside humidity is OK as that can be an issue in the States I have heard. Have you an air purifier which is essential with 'too's. You'd probably be best to move the Conure further away. Things like cleaning cages everyday and vacuuming and damp mopping floors will help, you have already got a handle on baths. If you have managed to do the above with no improvement (or things get worse) then your AV should be consulted. Is she OK otherwise? The switching from AC to outside and back again is not what they are used to. I am sure you know birds are susceptible to chills from drafts.
I do not have an air purifier. She seems okay and her usual self otherwise. I have only had them for about 8 months. When my mom passed away, my husband and I took them in. I could damp mop the floor. Good idea. Thanks. What would be the benefit to moving the Conure? I know birds are susceptible to drafts. Should I not take them out and bring into AC? As in, just keep them indoors? Still learning.
 

Jazzy Bird

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the white Too's are very dusty I will always recommend a air purifier near them and regular showers, birds can suffer with a sudden change in temperature this is why I always sprays to be given at room temperature
Do you recommend a specific air purifier? So, don’t spray/ mist when outdoors? Or keep indoors to avoid temp changes? They seem to love it outdoors. Still learning.
 

plumsmum

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I do not have an air purifier. She seems okay and her usual self otherwise. I have only had them for about 8 months. When my mom passed away, my husband and I took them in. I could damp mop the floor. Good idea. Thanks. What would be the benefit to moving the Conure? I know birds are susceptible to drafts. Should I not take them out and bring into AC? As in, just keep them indoors? Still learning.
The thought was to move the Conure further from the dusty too's hun. A birds lungs are much more effective than ours and therefore they suffer more with airborne dust, smoke and toxins etc.

Maybe limit the temperature difference between outside and inside? Perhaps you could slowly decrease the inside temp? I always check my birds feet and if they are chilly then I think the room poss is?

Outdoors is good if they have the chance of shade, are safe from predators (choosing to get lucky) and injury.
 

plumsmum

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Do you recommend a specific air purifier? So, don’t spray/ mist when outdoors? Or keep indoors to avoid temp changes? They seem to love it outdoors. Still learning.
Hun as you are in the States I have no idea what is good re air purifier there. It needs to be just an air purifier no fancy gadgets added. I am using a 3M FAP 02 here but not even sure if they are still available. Look at how much air you need to turn around for it to work properly ie room size, consider how noisy it is, also how much the filters cost to replace.

Many bird love to have a bath outdoors, they key is that they get the chance to dry off without getting chilled.
 

Jazzy Bird

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The thought was to move the Conure further from the dusty too's hun. A birds lungs are much more effective than ours and therefore they suffer more with airborne dust, smoke and toxins etc.

Maybe limit the temperature difference between outside and inside? Perhaps you could slowly decrease the inside temp? I always check my birds feet and if they are chilly then I think the room poss is?

Outdoors is good if they have the chance of shade, are safe from predators (choosing to get lucky) and injury.
How far away is ideal for Conure to be from too? Idk if I can configure the room different such that they could be on opposite sides. Will it make the Conure sick? When I take them out, they are in cages and under a large umbrella. I do sometimes move the umbrella so they can feel the sun. I mist the Too when outside, so she can be in the warm humid air while wet. I do it as soon as I take her out, and they’re usually out at least two hours. Plenty of time to dry off etc. Good idea about the feet. Thanks for all of the info!!!
 

Jazzy Bird

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Hun as you are in the States I have no idea what is good re air purifier there. It needs to be just an air purifier no fancy gadgets added. I am using a 3M FAP 02 here but not even sure if they are still available. Look at how much air you need to turn around for it to work properly ie room size, consider how noisy it is, also how much the filters cost to replace.

Many bird love to have a bath outdoors, they key is that they get the chance to dry off without getting chilled.
Thank you so much! I got these birds when my mom passed away 11/4/2019, so I’m doing my best to learn all I can. They bring me so much joy. 🥰
 

plumsmum

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Thank you so much! I got these birds when my mom passed away 11/4/2019, so I’m doing my best to learn all I can. They bring me so much joy. 🥰
Thank you for doing that hun not everyone takes to birds and the fact you are asking questions is brill. Remember there isn't a stupid question and if you get called out for asking one then leave immediately.

Diet is so important have you got a a grip of that for the birds? We have a lot of good info on the forum so please do take time to read what is good and what is poisonous. Otherwise although you are across the 'pond' ask away :)
 

plumsmum

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How far away is ideal for Conure to be from too? Idk if I can configure the room different such that they could be on opposite sides. Will it make the Conure sick? When I take them out, they are in cages and under a large umbrella. I do sometimes move the umbrella so they can feel the sun. I mist the Too when outside, so she can be in the warm humid air while wet. I do it as soon as I take her out, and they’re usually out at least two hours. Plenty of time to dry off etc. Good idea about the feet. Thanks for all of the info!!!
Otherside with an air purifier would poss be OK. Bathed birds will be less dusty anyway. Being able to get some sun safely is healthy re Vit D for them as it is for us. I dont take my girls outside in the cages as too many predators around and they'd be nervous wrecks. But I do manage to take for short walks in a back pak for parrots and their mood is so much better for doing this. U R welcome! :)
 

Michael Reynolds

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if you go for a purifier then make sure its got a Heppa filter placed near to the Too's cage but not next to it, you will be surprised how much dust and particles it will capture
 

Jazzy Bird

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Thanks for the support and ideas. Her sneezing has stopped - I think what I did and also her bathing, helped. I think her nostrils were clogged. I still have the cages next to one another as the room will not easily allow for another configuration. Def considering an air purifier. Speaking of taking them outside, if they are in direct sun when it’s really hot, will they get too hot? I keep them in cages and under a large umbrella, so they don’t get a lot of direct sun on them. I assumed they may overheat. 🤷🏼‍♀️
 

Jazzy Bird

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What should a Too’s chest feel and look like,
under the feathers? Oh. And they are on a seed, pellet and fruit diet. Sometimes I feed them oatmeal. Jasmine also likes a bit of peanut butter as a treat sometimes.
 

plumsmum

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What should a Too’s chest feel and look like,
under the feathers? Oh. And they are on a seed, pellet and fruit diet. Sometimes I feed them oatmeal. Jasmine also likes a bit of peanut butter as a treat sometimes.
Veggies (feed the rainbow!), fruit, pellet, with small amount of seed is better. Seed fills them up but not nutritionally, they end up suffering after a period of just seed diet. If you think she is too skinny or too podgy then best to see your qualified avian vet.

Have a look in here hun https://theparrotclub.co.uk/community/index.php?forums/food-and-diet.18/
 

plumsmum

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Thanks for the support and ideas. Her sneezing has stopped - I think what I did and also her bathing, helped. I think her nostrils were clogged. I still have the cages next to one another as the room will not easily allow for another configuration. Def considering an air purifier. Speaking of taking them outside, if they are in direct sun when it’s really hot, will they get too hot? I keep them in cages and under a large umbrella, so they don’t get a lot of direct sun on them. I assumed they may overheat. 🤷🏼‍♀️
Don't allow the birds to literally cook outside, they get sun burnt too. Use beginning and end of the day if better and not poss to give shade.
 

dianaT

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Never let birds be outside without offering shade for them, same applies if their cages are close to a window. I think some folk often forgot the heat through a glass window too.
 
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