Great work with Pan!
So really with Leche it is more reinforcing for her to come out of her cage than to take a treat from your hand inside the cage. And when she's out she is more likely to interact with you. That's where I would start working from then... outside the cage when she sounds more relaxed... and therefore more receptive to learning.
I would stop trying to work with her in the cage for now as you are competing with the greater reinforcer of freedom (maybe in the future you can come back to it). When she's out, you say you throw seeds at her - are they the sunflower seeds? Definitely keep pairing yourself with the seeds... if she begins to eat them at a certain distance from you, wonderful! It means she is relaxing. Then gradually toss them so they land closer and closer to you. You may eventually be able to give her one from your fingers. When this starts happening you can train anything you like, including the step up... using the clicker or not.
Some birds do have a fear/phobia of hands depending on past history etc. You'll only be able to tell when you start training the step up. If she is truly phobic about hands you can always teach her to step up on a hand held perch instead. With training it is all about trying various ways. If one doesn't work, try a different approach.
Animals also learn by modelling/copying, so yes, if Leche sees Pan being reinforced for various behaviours, it will certainly get her thinking about how to get those reinforcers too. She will need to gain confidence and trust in you though first.
So really with Leche it is more reinforcing for her to come out of her cage than to take a treat from your hand inside the cage. And when she's out she is more likely to interact with you. That's where I would start working from then... outside the cage when she sounds more relaxed... and therefore more receptive to learning.
I would stop trying to work with her in the cage for now as you are competing with the greater reinforcer of freedom (maybe in the future you can come back to it). When she's out, you say you throw seeds at her - are they the sunflower seeds? Definitely keep pairing yourself with the seeds... if she begins to eat them at a certain distance from you, wonderful! It means she is relaxing. Then gradually toss them so they land closer and closer to you. You may eventually be able to give her one from your fingers. When this starts happening you can train anything you like, including the step up... using the clicker or not.
Some birds do have a fear/phobia of hands depending on past history etc. You'll only be able to tell when you start training the step up. If she is truly phobic about hands you can always teach her to step up on a hand held perch instead. With training it is all about trying various ways. If one doesn't work, try a different approach.
Animals also learn by modelling/copying, so yes, if Leche sees Pan being reinforced for various behaviours, it will certainly get her thinking about how to get those reinforcers too. She will need to gain confidence and trust in you though first.